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I have one clone. My -7 died at level 1 with only 1 XP. My -8 is his younger brother, with the exact same build (who is now level 2.2). Had I been given more opportunity to explore the personality of the original character before he died, I would not have bothered cloning him. In the end, I'm not sure I will keep playing him.
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I am starting my -7 with the same class and race as my -4: diviner wizard elf. They are going to be very different characters even thought they start with the same feat, breadth of knowledge, and same dump stat, charisma. The first is a pure caster and know-it-all who has focused much on going first (high initiative). At level 10 he has been very successful that part of the repertoire. The new one is starting as an archer, with a bonded object bow. I may take him into arcane archer, but I have many levels before then.
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I have a friend who has a "family bloodline" of characters that have 7 CON. He died in my first Tabletop RPG game that I ever played in my life. After that, I went to find how can defensive I can get to survive to level 12....result?
First character had Crane Style/Wing (before eratta changed things)
First character to level 12 had 50+ AC
The trauma of being a Pathfinder....
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Well my Dwarf Ninja died in his first game, and a con was fast approaching. He was only my second character, so I wasn't very good at making characters at that point and I liked the concept. So I made my number -3 to be his sister and just changed the gender and name on the sheet. But I never actually got to play the character, and because of this I eventually realized it was very badly build and made a whole new character on the number, my Gnome Ninja/Sorcerer.
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My only "clones" are the twins, Magnus and Natalia Landros. Exact same stats, Magnus is a Paladin of Abadar, while Talia is a "Paladin" of Aroden (battle oracle). Magnus strives to be the most loyal and good paladin he can be, always wondering why Aroden has not chosen him, but only his sister.
Talia knows where her power comes from, and cares not for what others claim, she will use the blessing of Aroden to regain her family's rightful place in Taldan society.
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Even when I use the same starting concept for a character they tend to take on a life of their own. I happen to currently play 3 versions of the inital concept. One in A Pathfinder home game, One in a 4th ed. game that uses the same race/class/name, and one in PFS who started the same as the original character but went in a very different direction.
Exploring different options makes sense, and so does re-creating a character who died. As far as people who just remake the same character over and over again with only minor tweaking to the concept, well as long as it's fun for them then that's great.
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I'm not sure two characters need to be the same race/class to be "the same build."
I have a Chelaxian Diva Bard, an Elven Thassilonian Transmuter, and a
Jawdiga Cleric of Sivanah/Veiled Illusionist that all seem to have similar spell lists/combat options/"fighting stlyes."
All three have spells/class abilities designed to amplify the combat prowess of the group as a whole- -and help themselves as sort of a secondary benefit. Transmutation spells, Bardic Performance, a few debuff/control options are the general loadout, on a chassis of "good, not great" casting stats and above-average physical stats.
Their personalities are plenty dfferent, but as far as mechanics go- -which seems to be the OPs question- -the three are rather similar.
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Thats what they said about firing me out of a catapult, and that worked out fine.
Alright, but forewarned being forearmed...
--At least 3 are pyromaniacs
--One keeps Mites as housepets
--One has experimented with eating other sentient races
--One has a teensy bit of a drinking problem, which she justifies as the worship of Cayden Cailean
If any of this floats your boat, you can find any of the four by summoning something nasty in the Grand Lodge in Absalom. They'll be the ones screaming for an adult while climbing Major Maldris.
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Shamus Woodgear wrote:Thats what they said about firing me out of a catapult, and that worked out fine.Alright, but forewarned being forearmed...
--At least 3 are pyromaniacs
--One keeps Mites as housepets
--One has experimented with eating other sentient races
--One has a teensy bit of a drinking problem, which she justifies as the worship of Cayden CaileanIf any of this floats your boat, you can find any of the four by summoning something nasty in the Grand Lodge in Absalom. They'll be the ones screaming for an adult while climbing Major Maldris.
"Climbing Major Maldris"
... well, usually that costs extra....
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"Climbing Major Maldris"
... well, usually that costs extra....
Oh, Major Maldris is more than willing to pay it to get them pried off of him. Difficult to maintain decorum with a terrified gnome clinging to the back of your head screaming "Kill it, kill it, kill it!". I'm sure you're a dab hand with a crowbar.
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I try not to. Like to keep things varied. But personally I know there are some things that I prefer so there are definitely recognisible trends among some of my characters. Not all 'though, and certainly not the majority (I gm too much so my characters tend to be varied to avoid all my npc's becoming too samey too).
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I have a tendency to do that, so I have, as a conscious effort, attempted to miminize it. I haven't avoicded it, but the similar ones are built on slightly different chassis from each other. Sort of variations on a theme.
Fighter/Cleric archer
Monk (Zen Archer) archer
Fighter (Weapon Master) archer
I have several other fighters, but they tend to be a bit different, although two of them are also variations on a theme.
Fighter (Polearm Master) reach trip/disarm, Dex build
Fighter (Lore Warden) reach trip/disarm, Str build
I have wound up with several Sorcerers, but they tend to be very different from each other.
Human Sorcerer (Elemental: Air bloodline), human FCB to be a utility sorcerer
Kitsune Sorcerer (Razmiran Priest, Undead bloodline), just plain weird
Ifrit Sorcerer (EWlemental: FIre) very .. vanilla, really
May have an Undine SOrcerer, but I am still waiting to receive that boon...
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My first PFS character was a re-creation of a home game character (cleric of Fharlanghn). Aside from that I can't think of any characters which I have duplicated over the years (I did have a crass dwarf fighter in a home game several years ago, and now I have a crass dwarf barbarian in PFS, but they are fairly distinctive other than that).
I never do seem to play rangers though.
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I considered this briefly once to make a character who claimed to be a time traveler, but I have way too many character ideas I'd like to try out to stick to one for that long. There are only so many scenarios, after all.
I considered running a PC that would claim to have been "level drained" and robbed - left for dead and came back.
Thus he would be a 1st level PC with a 12th plus level PCs memories... but then I realized that some judges would think I was trying to "pull something" and just set that guy aside.
many great PC ideas die at birth due to fear of bad judge reactions
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zefig wrote:I considered this briefly once to make a character who claimed to be a time traveler, but I have way too many character ideas I'd like to try out to stick to one for that long. There are only so many scenarios, after all.I considered running a PC that would claim to have been "level drained" and robbed - left for dead and came back.
Thus he would be a 1st level PC with a 12th plus level PCs memories... but then I realized that some judges would think I was trying to "pull something" and just set that guy aside.
many great PC ideas die at birth due to fear of bad judge reactions
I played a character in Living Greyhawk whose backstory was that he used Mordenkainen's disjunction to destroy an artifact of Zagyg. The deific attention directed at him resulted in his being driven into a state of catatonia for many years until the events of A Plea From the Grave (which begins with a helping hand gathering the PCs). He snapped awake and followed the hand, having been reprogramed by Zagyg into one of his priests. He was never quite right after that.
Ah, I miss old Namelhse.
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PolydactylPolymath wrote:Thats what they said about firing me out of a catapult, and that worked out fine.Shamus Woodgear wrote:Believe me, that would be a VERY bad idea.Serum wrote:I know someone has 4 gnome sorcerer sisters who are nearly identical.Slicks back hair
"Can you introduce us?"
Well, the hair grease might be a problem. Three of them start setting things on fire when they get excited.
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A rule of my home-game is that no player can play the same race/class back to back. So no. The closest is in PFS where two of four characters have a level of sorcerer.
I do have a dwarf wizard from a Champs campaign in college based on Calvin & Hobbes. He was a lot of fun and has been remade a few times.
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I have two melee wizards. Both are enhancement transmuters. Maggie is a Scrollmaster 10, and Antimony is a Wizard 9|Archmage 3. I only built the second so I could see how the mythic rules in Wrath of the Righteous worked for her (the answer, by the way, is very well).
Actually, I suppose I've made three melee wizards... But one was an (also non-PFS, of course) awakened dolphin. So that scarcely counts.
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Since it's always you, it'll share certain similarities no matter what.
For me, it's usually just a preference for certain races / concepts. My favorite D&D setting was Planescape and the campaign I played there was a lot of fun.
So, when I realized you could play planetouched in PFS, I changed my first character around at 1st level from being a dwarf to being an Aasimar born to (and raised by) dwarves. Being Garuda-Blooded provides a nice segue into becoming a wandering Zen Archer.
Then, after I'd done so much research into Aasimars and their schtick for my first character, it came naturally to do a "pet master" build with Celestial Servant...I buff my pet and other members of the party too...
And finally, when trying to support a level 1 party with no tank, I took the role not with a premade character but another build I was toying with...another planetouched...the resistances really help at level 1.
I don't know if I'll keep the last or change it to a variant of the halfling pally / riding dog I used to enjoy in Living Greyhawk...while you can GET a riding dog in PFS, it's not explicitly permitted as a paladin mount and it'll be a while before the build really would start to shine anyway.
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So basically, I'm repeating myself using planetouched unless I do another character race in PFS. I actually don't have a history of preference in races I play except that I tend to be biased against humans...it's just a combination of being human 24 / 7, knowing they'll be a popular race, and being able to abuse a lot of stuff they get because of their popularity / new player appeal...
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Alright, but forewarned being forearmed...
And being four armed is half an octopus!
Haven't doubled up on anything yet! 1/2 orc rogue, 1/2 elf magus, human monk (serpent style), 1/2 elf inquisitor of Saranrae, currently gnome sorcerer (SylvanBL).
Although I would like to go back to the rogue. He was fun...and died way too early...
Ulfen Death Squad
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I do have the habit of doing melee heavy characters. Outside of my 2 fighters, the others have their own flavor (dwarven cleric of gorum, aasimar cavalier with an owlbear mount, and an oread monk of the 4 winds that will be legal after I get the oread race boon next weekend).
I do have 3 ranged characters and 2 pure spell casters
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Alright, but forewarned being forearmed...
--At least 3 are pyromaniacs
--One keeps Mites as housepets
--One has experimented with eating other sentient races
--One has a teensy bit of a drinking problem, which she justifies as the worship of Cayden CaileanIf any of this floats your boat, you can find any of the four by summoning something nasty in the Grand Lodge in Absalom. They'll be the ones screaming for an adult while climbing Major Maldris.
These sound like some of my characters. I had a Druid who was obsessed with making everything a pet. Next there was the Ifrit Sorcerer, who in short, REALLY liked fire. Then I had my first barbarian, who has been known as the "Pretty Barbarian" amongst my friends, namely because his Cha was 15. He believed in the old "Eat their heart, gain their power" philosophy. And then finally, my first rogue, who got so wasted during a zombie assault that the other members of the party used him as a drunken doorstop.
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