In the same round can you withdraw and stealth as part of one action? I have two friends arguing both sides of it, one saying that you can't add stealth to a withdraw, and the other one taking the other side saying that it is a movement so why can't you?
I want to argue on the side of the first argument, but the grounds which I do would be along the lines of referring to this action as the equivalent of a run in terms of concentration, and as a DM how I would rule. With no actual backing towards the RAW ruling, I doubt that this argument will end soon.
So I wish to ask you the question for a third time, "Can you withdraw, and stealth as part of the withdraw action?"
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WITHDRAW: Withdrawing from melee combat is a full-round action. When you withdraw, you can move up to double your speed.
STEALTH: You can move up to half your normal speed and use Stealth at no penalty. When moving at a speed greater than half but less than your normal speed, you take a –5 penalty.
Stealth is normally used with movement, but you cannot use stealth if you are start out being observed. You would need a distraction and cover/concealment to move to. If the distraction is successful, then you have the chance of sneaking away without being noticed. This likely means another player creating the distraction for you since you could not move and distract in the same round (you don't have enough actions). Also, the speed at which you are moving could impact the DC.
The bottom line is that you can, but it's a bit tricky.
Well essentially if you are a high level rogue, or ranger you can pull off the observed thing rather easy, so 'withdraw stealth' mixture would be very potent. Though since this is a single action you wouldn't be able to move more then your speed -5, though this raises the question, at which part of the stealth are you stealthed?
The player would be moving at greater than half their speed, and would need to successfully bluff their opponent , which combine to incur a -15 penalty to the check. There would also need to be cover or concealment. The bluff check would also need to be a swift action or less, otherwise it would be impossible to take the full-round action withdrawal.
