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Other combinations of the 'multiclass patch' PrCs, like a Divine Trickster or Divine Knight.
Monk/Spellcaster combos.
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Shapeshifter focused prestige classes. Classes that are super focused on things like the X Shape spells.
Malconvoker. Please.
And I'll second Zhayne's suggestion of more multiclassing PRCs, though I would also like to the Multiclassing feats from Complete Scoundrel make it back into the game.
More specific-themed classes (such as Living Monolith) rather than simply bags-o-mechanics like Mystic Theurge. It's a prestige class--it should be worthy of prestige both in theme and in mechanics. Paizo generally does a good job of this.
Examples I'd love to see are Alienist (though that would make a good archetype as well), some sort of Aroden seeker/revivalist, and some prestige classes related to the cultures mentioned in Distant Worlds.
Full BAB PrCs that give some magical tricks instead of more bonuses to damage/feats.
Demon hunter, dragon slayer, guild thief, variations of the dragon disciple for other bloodlines, racial paragon classes, knight of the realm, witch/fighter hybrid.
I always liked prestige classes Way more than archetypes, since they give me something to strive for within the campaign that also makes sense for my character :-)
+1 on Zhaynes suggestion. And variant assassins.
village Idiot...what do all prestige classes have to be good ones? :)
+1 Shapeshifter class and +1 "multiclass PrCs" like Arcane Trickster and Champion of Irori.
I'd also like to see more PrCs worth taking in general, but especially ones that fit a similar theme to a common archetypal character who might be of that class.
Like the Grand/Shield Marshal, which is basically a Gunslinger with abilities that make him perfectly suited to be a Texas Ranger circa the late 1800's/early 1900's.
And ones that like laser focus on a specific portion of a class, making you master of that ability. Like the Horizon Walker, that says "Screw Favored Enemy, we control ALL the terrain!".
Some good Monk archetypes besides Champion of Irori would be nice too. All Monks get is that and Brother of the Seal, and BotS kinda sucks ass.
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Gun-fu artist, only to peeve people.
A casting assassin is my first priority. Anything to work with a casting rogue would do. no, Arcane trickster doesn't work. He is a sneaking mage, not a casting rogue.
Other combinations of the 'multiclass patch' PrCs, like a Divine Trickster or Divine Knight.
Monk/Spellcaster combos.
To expand. . .
Druid/Wizard
Druid/Fighter with more powerful shape shifting and physical attacks.
Elementalist Wizard/Cleric of elemental deity.
Rogue/Barbarian
Rogue/Cleric
Paladin/Enchantment Wizard who uses charms to forcibly convert heathens
Cleric/Wizard necromancer master (had it in 3.5, but still)
Just a few ideas. . .
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Rogue/Paladin PrC combo focused on going vigilante and expanding the limits of code of conduct.
A Paladin PrC focused on being bad cop.
A monk/barbarian PrC that expands the Lawful requirement and focuses on controlling your anger.
A combat maneuver PrC that focuses on being able to do the impossible with CMB [like trip flying creatures or disarm natural attacks].
A Poisoning Assassin PrC that focuses on allowing you to make poison not worth it as a PC.
Arcane Archer for Crossbows.
Ooh! Crossbows! Definitely need a martial only crossbowman that gets really awesome stuff!
And halfling slingers!
Love all your ideas Armoured Monk13! Might as well add an Armor wearing monk to the list!
Ooh! Crossbows! Definitely need a martial only crossbowman that gets really awesome stuff!
And halfling slingers!
I know you're probably being sarcastic but PrCs that makes those things usable (or usable AGAIN in the case of a Slingstaff user) would go a long way towards diversifying builds.
Love all your ideas Armoured Monk13! Might as well add an Armor wearing monk to the list!
There's already the Sohei though.
Ooh! Crossbows! Definitely need a martial only crossbowman that gets really awesome stuff!
And halfling slingers!
I know you're probably being sarcastic but PrCs that makes those things usable (or usable AGAIN in the case of a Slingstaff user) would go a long way towards diversifying builds.
Love all your ideas Armoured Monk13! Might as well add an Armor wearing monk to the list!There's already the Sohei though.
No, I would love to see those PrCs. I love PrCs of all varieties and ones that have a clear goal to fill (if they deliver) are the best-- a PrC that actually made crossbows worth using would be great; ditto for halfling slingers which are a common trope in fiction but pretty useless in game.
I'll have to look at Sohei. . . Edit-- still plrenty of design space for Monks who use armor I think, especially if you don't want the Sohei's mount.
Armored monk could probably just be an archetype, though. It's not THAT big a change.
A mounted combat based prestige class, that gives easy access to mounts like young dragons, dragonnes, and other such intelligent mounts that gain features as you level.
Definitely love the concept, I'm just not sure how having to advance in two other classes, or levels in one class makes anything "easy".
And there are 3PP publications that achieve this already, without the PrC.
However, if this is Pathfinder as produced by Paizo/official PrC's I want to see PrCs that are less tied to Golarion yet still have awesome themes and flavors.
Most PrCs seem to be an evolution of the character, either intrinsic or extrinsic, so an awesome flavor that can catered to plot developments and character developments is prime.
For those that just like the mechanical side of things, an awesome theme is prime, and need not be tired to Golaria (united flavors of Golarion).
To the OP - check out THESE concepts - many of these combinations have been listed in this thread already, and would be fantastic as PrC's should you wish to mine them for ideas and inspiration.
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A mounted combat based prestige class, that gives easy access to mounts like young dragons, dragonnes, and other such intelligent mounts that gain features as you level.Definitely love the concept, I'm just not sure how having to advance in two other classes, or levels in one class makes anything "easy".
I'd say you would need animal companion class feature, mounted combat feat, cha 14 or higher, and 5 levels in ride. And your improved mount would only be able to be within one increment of your alignment
I know the Gunfu comment was a joke, but I'd actually like to see something like that attempted. Certainly flavorful.
Definitely would love to see something that focuses on Shifting - and done in a way that Druids or Tranmuters could make use of it, allowing you to make even more effective use of multiple forms.
I'd also like to see an Elemental Lord PrC, similar to Dragon Disciple, but that would be reached by any Elemental Sor/Wiz/Cleric/Oracle
A combat-oriented PrC that advances/enhanced Wild Shape!
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A full bab warrior with the ability to heal not tied to an alinment.
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Specialists. For the love of Desna, give me specialists!
Two handers
Bow Users
Force magic
Transmuters (replace some spell casting for awesome long term polymorphs! Arcane and Divine welcome!)
These are just off the top of my head.
Also, ALL of them should have multiple entry methods!!!
Don't give some junk prerequisite like "bloodline class feature" or "Bravery class feature" LAME!!!! Let all the characters that want to play into the pool!
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This idea is not too new, (shades of it appeared as a full base class in the Dragon Compendium) and another version was a 13-level prestige class in Ultimate Prestige Classes, Vol. II, and even though this thread is about prestige classes, it would be better in Pathfinder as an Archetype (or better still, a good application for an Alternate Class), it should still be mentioned: An "any Chaotic" variant Monk.
give a example or the themes of a Prestige Class you want to see in pathfinder
Reduce the barrier of entry for Eldritch Knight and Arcane Trickster so you can enter at 3rd level. There's no good reason that I need to wait 6+ levels to have my character work the way I want it to.
An equivalent for Warriors and Thieves who want to take levels in Cleric and Druid would also be good.
A casting assassin is my first priority. Anything to work with a casting rogue would do. no, Arcane trickster doesn't work. He is a sneaking mage, not a casting rogue.
I think this may be what you are looking for
While it is technically a 3PP archetype, the info is on th PFSRD, and (short of PFS) I don't think to many GMs will mind if you take it (since this is the rogue are talking about). It effectively makes you like an AT from level 1, but you are weaker on the spellcasting front (gain SLA instead of spells, and you get them slower) but you maintain a "rogue identity" that is lacking from the AT.
Druid/Wizard. . .
I emphatically second this. Except don't just copy the 3.5 one whose name escapes me. That one had a weird mishmash of abilities that didn't work. The Familiar/Animal companion merge and the +1 to two spell lists was the only reason to play that PRC.
Druid/Wizard. . .I emphatically second this. Except don't just copy the 3.5 one whose name escapes me. That one had a weird mishmash of abilities that didn't work. The Familiar/Animal companion merge and the +1 to two spell lists was the only reason to play that PRC.
Arcane Hierophant. The other abilities were pretty arbitrary, but it got Wild Shape, full spells, and the Familiar Companion was pretty OP. . .
Now I'm pondering the idea of a generic multiclass PrC ... some way to just plug in your main abilities and improve them both/all, but at a slower rate. Like instead of sneak attack going up every other level, it might go up every 3, but so would your fighter bonus feat progression. Every level of the PrC would count as a level in both classes for prerequisites.
A PrC that adds on top of a basic Fighter or Rogue, progressing his basic abilities AND providing level-appropriate abilities on top of that.
Bard/Druid like the fochlucan lyrist but without the required 2 levels of rogue.
A PrC that adds on top of a basic Fighter or Rogue, progressing his basic abilities AND providing level-appropriate abilities on top of that.
Prestige classes are not intended to be strictly greater than base classes. You give something to get something.
Unless this was just another excuse to derail a thread into pointless fighter/rogue bashing.
Prestige classes are not intended to be strictly greater than base classes. You give something to get something.
Doesn't need to be "strictly better". Could drop the Bonus Feats to progress Weapon Training and Rogue Talents to progress Sneak Attack, along with some goodies for each.
Much like Grand Marshal is basically "Got Gun Training? Good. Don't like the look of the other Deeds? Alright let's rock. Have some Judgement. Have some skill bonuses. Be a badass."
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Prestige classes based around the sorcerer bloodlines like Dragon Disciple is in PFRPG (as opposed to the 3.5 version which was based on becoming a half-dragon through class levels).
I have started making several homebrew options built on a few of the bloodline options I find more personally interesting. Most of these classes focus on providing full caster level in addition to unique abilities.
I wouldn't mind seeing a monk/cleric another monk/caster PrC, I guess, but generally PF seems to be more inclined towards handling it with archetypes. I'd also love a PrC like the duelist but for staves or other double weapon. I don't want to go magus if I want to do a wanderer with a staff archetype and not feel fairly useful.
BTW, I'd love it if the mystic theurge could be made more available without those racial ability tricks -i.e. by just requiring 2nd level spells in one area and 1st level in the other.
A PrC that adds on top of a basic Fighter or Rogue, progressing his basic abilities AND providing level-appropriate abilities on top of that.Prestige classes are not intended to be strictly greater than base classes. You give something to get something.
Unless this was just another excuse to derail a thread into pointless fighter/rogue bashing.
I'm not trying to derail the thread into pointless mundane-bashing. Fighters and Rogues have a built-in expiration date, and it's before level 10. I have no interest in discussing that with people who disagree, I want to talk solutions.
And Prestige classes that are "Fighter/Rogue + supernatural power source" IS the best way to fix things that ARE broken. That is a thing I WANT to see. And it's easier than the alternative: Writing PrCs that give the player new, level-appropriate things to do while incorporating his previous abilities.
I want the Master Specialist back. It just made playing a wizard in 3.5 so much more fun. I'm a specialist... then there's that guy who super specialized and holy cow look at him go. Also since I really like playing wizards and I haven't seen a lot of wizard love in pathfinder, a good chunk of the fun arcane magic was given to the sorcerer.