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"Fortune is arranging matters for us better than we could have shaped our
desires ourselves, for look there, friend Sancho Panza, where thirty or
more monstrous giants present themselves, all of whom I mean to engage in
battle and slay, and with whose spoils we shall begin to make our
fortunes; for this is righteous warfare, and it is God's good service to
sweep so evil a breed from off the face of the earth."
Tell it to the hand.
This is not good news.
Look up the actual factors that cause hurricanes. Then look up how many other storms are caused by those same factors. Included in that are rain storms, due to the same winds moving humidity inwards towards land. Sucking the energy out of those winds means less humidity driven landward, meaning less rainfall and increased drought frequency.
So, overall, if they implement this, it will probably kill millions... including all of the people who would benefit from reduced hurricane frequency. And then there's what it will do to the plant and animal life.
Are these scientists actively trying to make Earth an uninhabitable desert now?
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This is not good news.
Look up the actual factors that cause hurricanes. Then look up how many other storms are caused by those same factors. Included in that are rain storms, due to the same winds moving humidity inwards towards land. Sucking the energy out of those winds means less humidity driven landward, meaning less rainfall and increased drought frequency.
So, overall, if they implement this, it will probably kill millions... including all of the people who would benefit from reduced hurricane frequency. And then there's what it will do to the plant and animal life.
Are these scientists actively trying to make Earth an uninhabitable desert now?
Is there any evidence at all that any actual scientists are involved (or even backing) this petition? As amusing as I find this, I don't think you have anything to worry about.
Is there any evidence at all that any actual scientists are involved (or even backing) this petition? As amusing as I find this, I don't think you have anything to worry about.This is not good news.
Look up the actual factors that cause hurricanes. Then look up how many other storms are caused by those same factors. Included in that are rain storms, due to the same winds moving humidity inwards towards land. Sucking the energy out of those winds means less humidity driven landward, meaning less rainfall and increased drought frequency.
So, overall, if they implement this, it will probably kill millions... including all of the people who would benefit from reduced hurricane frequency. And then there's what it will do to the plant and animal life.
Are these scientists actively trying to make Earth an uninhabitable desert now?
Read his second link. There's quite a few scientists involved in the science that led to his petition.
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Is there any evidence at all that any actual scientists are involved (or even backing) this petition? As amusing as I find this, I don't think you have anything to worry about.This is not good news.
Look up the actual factors that cause hurricanes. Then look up how many other storms are caused by those same factors. Included in that are rain storms, due to the same winds moving humidity inwards towards land. Sucking the energy out of those winds means less humidity driven landward, meaning less rainfall and increased drought frequency.
So, overall, if they implement this, it will probably kill millions... including all of the people who would benefit from reduced hurricane frequency. And then there's what it will do to the plant and animal life.
Are these scientists actively trying to make Earth an uninhabitable desert now?
Add it up folks.
Yellow Dingo is the original poster.
Total number of signers... ONE. as of the time of this post.Do you really need it spelled out by now?
Dont spoil it for them...
So, overall, if they implement this, it will probably kill millions... including all of the people who would benefit from reduced hurricane frequency. And then there's what it will do to the plant and animal life.
Are these scientists actively trying to make Earth an uninhabitable desert now?
It's just like ordering peasants to smelt pig iron in their back yards and exterminate the sparrow population: it sounds like a good idea on paper.
I think the people that came up with that study have been dipping to much into the medical marijuana.
Other than the problem that your wind farm would have to cover the Atlantic Ocean from the coast of North Africa to the Caribbean and through the Gulf of Mexico and up the Atlantic seaboard to at least Virginia, it would be simple to do.
Having dense accumulations of windfarms offshore hurricane prone areas sounds like a disaster for migrating birds. Those are major migration corridors, and we already have enough trouble with offshore oil platforms luring in and confusing birds with lights. Add giant spinning blades to the mix? Good bye warblers.
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I think the people that came up with that study have been dipping to much into the medical marijuana.
Other than the problem that your wind farm would have to cover the Atlantic Ocean from the coast of North Africa to the Caribbean and through the Gulf of Mexico and up the Atlantic seaboard to at least Virginia, it would be simple to do.
How? At five hundred metres apart that is four per square kilometre. That means two hundred and fifty thousand square kilometres. Thats boston to Miami out to fifty miles off the coast, around the gulf of Mexico from Miami to the Mexican border, along the rocky mountains on the California side and the eastern side, and a final fifty thousand square miles to install in Alaska and Hawaii.
How? At five hundred metres apart that is four per square kilometre. That means two hundred and fifty thousand square kilometres. Thats boston to Miami out to fifty miles off the coast, around the gulf of Mexico from Miami to the Mexican border, along the rocky mountains on the California side and the eastern side, and a final fifty thousand square miles to install in Alaska and Hawaii.I think the people that came up with that study have been dipping to much into the medical marijuana.
Other than the problem that your wind farm would have to cover the Atlantic Ocean from the coast of North Africa to the Caribbean and through the Gulf of Mexico and up the Atlantic seaboard to at least Virginia, it would be simple to do.
Which, if you go by the actual science on how hurricanes form, will either do nothing to stop them or install a giant wind wall that negatively impacts the entire continent and forces it into a drought. Either way, you end up having no good impact. The difference is, the windwall kills tens of millions.
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How about a a real petition, YD? Let's abolish Carried Interest from the US Tax Code. Or how about a petition to bring Federal Conspiracy charges against Governors Kasich, Scott, Snyder, and Walker?
Oh, well. I guess a a million turbines is just as good...and just as likely.
Who? I'm unfamiliar with these four nobody governors.
Lets get you folks signing this petition.
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This is not good news.
Look up the actual factors that cause hurricanes. Then look up how many other storms are caused by those same factors. Included in that are rain storms, due to the same winds moving humidity inwards towards land. Sucking the energy out of those winds means less humidity driven landward, meaning less rainfall and increased drought frequency.
So, overall, if they implement this, it will probably kill millions... including all of the people who would benefit from reduced hurricane frequency. And then there's what it will do to the plant and animal life.
Are these scientists actively trying to make Earth an uninhabitable desert now?
Are you kidding right? You actually think that even a million wind turbines would suck a fraction of the power of a cold front moving forward?
You have no idea how powerful that can be. A billion wind turbines wouldn't give it pause. Nor would it suck humidity from it.
You'd have to build a mountain in order to do something like that.
This is not good news.
Look up the actual factors that cause hurricanes. Then look up how many other storms are caused by those same factors. Included in that are rain storms, due to the same winds moving humidity inwards towards land. Sucking the energy out of those winds means less humidity driven landward, meaning less rainfall and increased drought frequency.
So, overall, if they implement this, it will probably kill millions... including all of the people who would benefit from reduced hurricane frequency. And then there's what it will do to the plant and animal life.
Are these scientists actively trying to make Earth an uninhabitable desert now?
Are you kidding right? You actually think that even a million wind turbines would suck a fraction of the power of a cold front moving forward?
You have no idea how powerful that can be. A billion wind turbines wouldn't give it pause. Nor would it suck humidity from it.
You'd have to build a mountain in order to do something like that.
Keep in mind that they would be required to have the capacity for sucking the power out of a cold front in order to defeat hurricanes; the amount of atmospheric energy hurricanes rely on to form is just that massive, and the atmosphere has a lot more of it now than it had years ago. So what I said is not an exaggeration of them actually putting that plan in action.
Also, you don't need a mountain. At least, not a real one. You just need to reflect enough heat to make an effective mountain. Say, the kind of heat reflection that the typical city has... Look up the study related to cities acting as mountains, look up how many cities humanity has, consider the sheer climatic impact adding that many mountains would have. Add in the water cycle changes from all of the artificial lakes.
I'm not joking when I say humanity has never had the capacity to fully solve this problem and never will. Humanity has simply done too much damage on too many fronts, and I've only covered four of the 10+ fronts (exact figure unknown; not enough scientific study). We've never had enough nuclear weapons to solve the city issue, and anything else is just applying a bandaid solution that ultimately will fail in the long run. Oh, and then there was that paper on the projected climatic damage from wars over water shortages, the timeframe putting the first wars starting anywhere from next year to 11 years from now (give you three guesses why the IPCC was shouting about getting mitigation in place by 2015), and all of those lovely stories about water shortages, droughts, and massively decreased water popping up... It's a safe bet we lost at the battle to even mitigate the climate damage around 14 years ago, and may have lost the battle to prevent catastrophic climate change as much as 64 years ago*.
*Number based on wild guess and lack of will to attempt to find out the exact points in history humanity frelled itself beyond all hope.
This is not good news.
Look up the actual factors that cause hurricanes. Then look up how many other storms are caused by those same factors. Included in that are rain storms, due to the same winds moving humidity inwards towards land. Sucking the energy out of those winds means less humidity driven landward, meaning less rainfall and increased drought frequency.
So, overall, if they implement this, it will probably kill millions... including all of the people who would benefit from reduced hurricane frequency. And then there's what it will do to the plant and animal life.
Are these scientists actively trying to make Earth an uninhabitable desert now?
Just using the United States as an example.
How many rainstorms do you see moving primarily from South to North and secondarily from East to West? (ie, how many rainstorms in Oklahoma come from the direction of Florida? Or, How many rainstorms in Washington State come from the direction of Nebraska?)
Ok, so then, how many rainstorms do you see moving primarily from West to East and secondarily from North to South? (ie, how many rainstorms in New England come from the direction of the Great Lakes? Or, how many rainstorms in Texas come from the direction of Colorado?)
This is not good news.
Look up the actual factors that cause hurricanes. Then look up how many other storms are caused by those same factors. Included in that are rain storms, due to the same winds moving humidity inwards towards land. Sucking the energy out of those winds means less humidity driven landward, meaning less rainfall and increased drought frequency.
So, overall, if they implement this, it will probably kill millions... including all of the people who would benefit from reduced hurricane frequency. And then there's what it will do to the plant and animal life.
Are these scientists actively trying to make Earth an uninhabitable desert now?
Just using the United States as an example.
How many rainstorms do you see moving primarily from South to North and secondarily from East to West? (ie, how many rainstorms in Oklahoma come from the direction of Florida? Or, How many rainstorms in Washington State come from the direction of Nebraska?)
Up to 45-50%, and typically during Spring and Summer. Where I live, despite how far inland it is, gets a lot of rain storms that originated in the Gulf of Mexico. That also is a contributing factor to our tendency to have tornadoes. In order to block hurricanes, they would have to also block the wind path up through the Gulf of Mexico, where it bypasses the Appalachians entirely. Otherwise, all they would do is create a wind wall that would focus the hurricanes right into the Gulf and utterly devastate Texas (the eastern bit), Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and Florida. Maybe part of Georgia too.
Ok, so then, how many rainstorms do you see moving primarily from West to East and secondarily from North to South? (ie, how many rainstorms in New England come from the direction of the Great Lakes? Or, how many rainstorms in Texas come from the direction of Colorado?)
Up to 45-50% easily, and typically during Spring and Summer.
There's two other weather direction arrangements you left out. One of them contributes the rest of our weather, and the other you don't see. At least, that's how it is with the central U.S.
This is not good news.
Look up the actual factors that cause hurricanes. Then look up how many other storms are caused by those same factors. Included in that are rain storms, due to the same winds moving humidity inwards towards land. Sucking the energy out of those winds means less humidity driven landward, meaning less rainfall and increased drought frequency.
So, overall, if they implement this, it will probably kill millions... including all of the people who would benefit from reduced hurricane frequency. And then there's what it will do to the plant and animal life.
Are these scientists actively trying to make Earth an uninhabitable desert now?
Just using the United States as an example.
How many rainstorms do you see moving primarily from South to North and secondarily from East to West? (ie, how many rainstorms in Oklahoma come from the direction of Florida? Or, How many rainstorms in Washington State come from the direction of Nebraska?)
Ok, so then, how many rainstorms do you see moving primarily from West to East and secondarily from North to South? (ie, how many rainstorms in New England come from the direction of the Great Lakes? Or, how many rainstorms in Texas come from the direction of Colorado?)
Actually where I live a significant number of storms come from the south and west in the summer and from the north and west in the winter. Occasionally a hurricane will hit the Texas coast and loop far enough north to hit where I live. And very rarely we will get a storm caught by the wrong side of a pressure system and have it come out of the east.
Actually where I live a significant number of storms come from the south and west in the summer and from the north and west in the winter. Occasionally a hurricane will hit the Texas coast and loop far enough north to hit where I live. And very rarely we will get a storm caught by the wrong side of a pressure system and have it come out of the east.This is not good news.
Look up the actual factors that cause hurricanes. Then look up how many other storms are caused by those same factors. Included in that are rain storms, due to the same winds moving humidity inwards towards land. Sucking the energy out of those winds means less humidity driven landward, meaning less rainfall and increased drought frequency.
So, overall, if they implement this, it will probably kill millions... including all of the people who would benefit from reduced hurricane frequency. And then there's what it will do to the plant and animal life.
Are these scientists actively trying to make Earth an uninhabitable desert now?
Just using the United States as an example.
How many rainstorms do you see moving primarily from South to North and secondarily from East to West? (ie, how many rainstorms in Oklahoma come from the direction of Florida? Or, How many rainstorms in Washington State come from the direction of Nebraska?)
Ok, so then, how many rainstorms do you see moving primarily from West to East and secondarily from North to South? (ie, how many rainstorms in New England come from the direction of the Great Lakes? Or, how many rainstorms in Texas come from the direction of Colorado?)
Precisely my point. Regular weather systems which produce good farming rain come from an entirely different weather pattern than hurricanes. Regular weather systems almost exclusively move west to east as cold pressure comes in off the Pacific or down from Canada. Self contained weather events like hurricanes are the only systems that move east to west.
Precisely my point. Regular weather systems which produce good farming rain come from an entirely different weather pattern than hurricanes. Regular weather systems almost exclusively move west to east as cold pressure comes in off the Pacific or down from Canada. Self contained weather events like hurricanes are the only...Actually where I live a significant number of storms come from the south and west in the summer and from the north and west in the winter. Occasionally a hurricane will hit the Texas coast and loop far enough north to hit where I live. And very rarely we will get a storm caught by the wrong side of a pressure system and have it come out of the east.This is not good news.
Look up the actual factors that cause hurricanes. Then look up how many other storms are caused by those same factors. Included in that are rain storms, due to the same winds moving humidity inwards towards land. Sucking the energy out of those winds means less humidity driven landward, meaning less rainfall and increased drought frequency.
So, overall, if they implement this, it will probably kill millions... including all of the people who would benefit from reduced hurricane frequency. And then there's what it will do to the plant and animal life.
Are these scientists actively trying to make Earth an uninhabitable desert now?
Just using the United States as an example.
How many rainstorms do you see moving primarily from South to North and secondarily from East to West? (ie, how many rainstorms in Oklahoma come from the direction of Florida? Or, How many rainstorms in Washington State come from the direction of Nebraska?)
Ok, so then, how many rainstorms do you see moving primarily from West to East and secondarily from North to South? (ie, how many rainstorms in New England come from the direction of the Great Lakes? Or, how many rainstorms in Texas come from the direction of Colorado?)
Except that is only true for part of the U.S.; Texas and a few other states are far enough south to be affected by entirely different jet stream movements, while the jet stream that powers west-east movement has intermittent periods where it does not operate and there is a secondary jet stream that affects the same region which runs South to North. A storm's motion set in place by an southern west-blowing jet stream that hits a jet stream sending it north is usually going to travel Northwest. There's a number of rain storms that, every year, get pushed into U.S. by this unusual setup... it's also the same mechanism which pushes in hurricanes from the Gulf.
At the same time, the issue of what direction storms comes from is completely irrelevant to the discussion of humidity; humidity != rainfall. If it did, a number of states in the U.S. would have entirely different climates than they do.
So, when it comes to using this as a reply to my post discussing humidity movements, I am afraid I must ask what your point is. Because I am not seeing one that is relevant, and an irrelevant point is the same as no point at all.
Precisely my point. Regular weather systems which produce good farming rain come from an entirely different weather pattern than hurricanes. Regular weather systems almost exclusively move west to east as cold pressure comes in off the Pacific or down from Canada. Self contained weather events like hurricanes are the only systems that move east to west.Actually where I live a significant number of storms come from the south and west in the summer and from the north and west in the winter. Occasionally a hurricane will hit the Texas coast and loop far enough north to hit where I live. And very rarely we will get a storm caught by the wrong side of a pressure system and have it come out of the east.
Just using the United States as an example.How many rainstorms do you see moving primarily from South to North and secondarily from East to West? (ie, how many rainstorms in Oklahoma come from the direction of Florida? Or, How many rainstorms in Washington State come from the direction of Nebraska?)
Ok, so then, how many rainstorms do you see moving primarily from West to East and secondarily from North to South? (ie, how many rainstorms in New England come from the direction of the Great Lakes? Or, how many rainstorms in Texas come from the direction of Colorado?)
A hurricane has to hit Texas for it to have enough oomph to get far enough north to reach where I live, and there have been years where I watched closely hoping for one of those hurricanes to do that.
But for those states south of where I live, hurricanes often provide much needed water. The southern Mississippi and the southern half of the Ohio River systems need the water provided by those hurricanes. As does the Atlantic drainage area east of the mountains.
Wettest tropical storms in the US by states that includes both Pacific and Atlantic, and there are Atlantic storms that have hit Oklahoma.