The Ultimate Charge - Legality Check


Rules Questions


I've been toying with the idea of playing a lancer paladin in a campaign for a while now. Discussing it today with a fried who favours the druid we came up with an idea to make a single boss-killing ubercharge once a day (or more at level 20). So, is our idea legal and practical, or utter nonsense and we should be ashamed of inflicting it to the world?

Prerequisites:
Paladin with Oath of vengeance, Celestial obedience (Ragathiel), Mounted skirmisher + assorted mounted combat feats. Minimum level - 16
Druid with general animal companion focus and Celestial Servant or anything that can give it a good aura.
Animal companion has to be at least large so it can be ridden. Lion in this example.
Both animal and rider have had haste cast on them.

NOTE: It is assumed the paladin is using a one handed weapon for the purposes of this exercise, NOT a lance, or even a two handed weapon as it is just a thought exercise at the moment, not an optimisation. It assumed that the animal companion and the paladin do about +30 damage (absurdly low, but keeping the numbers small)

Combat proceeds as follows:

Round 1

  • Start 80ft away from evil outsider/dragon/undead.
  • Paladin casts smite evil and uses another use of smite evil to enable
  • Powerful Justice in order to give the smite damage bonuses to the lion.
  • Druid buffs animal companion.

Round 2

  • Enemy at 40ft or closer (at least 10ft away)
  • Paladin uses a free action to do a Ride check (DC 5) to make the lion charge and a swift action to cast Litany of Righteousness on the enemy.
  • Lion charges.
  • Paladin gets a charge attack doing weapon damage +30 x 2 from the litany.
  • Lion pounces doing 6 attacks (1 bite, 1 bite -haste-, 2 claws, 2 rake) at +30 x2 damage each.
  • As the mount has moved up to its speed, the rider can do a full attack thanks to mounted skirmisher.
  • Paladin gets 5 attacks doing weapon damage +30x2 each.

    Total attacks: 12
    Total damage: (12x30)x2 = 720 through any damage reduction.

    Should this be possible, the damage output would realistically be even higher as the first attack from both mount and rider gets double smite damage, power attack, holding the weapon two handed and having good attributes could push each attach to at least +40.

    Could it be enhanced by a cavalier's spirited charge? Would you be able to use a lance for double damage of the charge attack (effectively making it x4) dropping the lance and quick drawing a non-reach weapon?

    Suggestion? Ideas?


  • This works great....IF they're evil, IF you have time to buff, IF they're an evil outsider/undead/dragon, IF you're far enough away, etc.

    In other words, it's powerful, but very, very situational.
    Too much so to be reliable.

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    Remember, if you double a double, you get a triple in PF.


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    Remember, if you double a double, you get a triple in PF.

    Huh, totally did not know that. Thanks!

    And yes, it is horribly impractical and situational. Nice to know that it might work once in a campaign though.


    Might I say, if that works, it'll be freaking epic.

    Even once.

    Maybe as part of a campaign-ending battle?

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