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Kirth Gersen

Mar 3, 2014, 10:30 am

TriOmegaZero wrote:

We had some of those last game session.

Oh, my -- you're drastically expanding your horizons, now that you're out in civilian-land!

TriOmegaZero

Mar 3, 2014, 10:48 am

Kirth Gersen wrote:

TriOmegaZero wrote:
We had some of those last game session.
Oh, my -- you're drastically expanding your horizons, now that you're out in civilian-land!

Never said I partook. :P

Skullford - Forgive me, I'm nub

Mar 3, 2014, 02:43 pm

I want a religion where I don't need to matter. I guess Zen would be the best. I feel no need for the ego Jenga society promotes. I also have no desire to promote another based upon others subservience.

As for the western 3 I am at a lost of the logic that a potter who makes a pot in a certain way gets mad at the pot for being that way and then pot must ask apologize to the potter so that when its scrapped it can spend time with the potter. No thanks.

yellowdingo

Mar 3, 2014, 02:56 pm

Lord Snow wrote:

BigNorseWolf wrote:
Lordsnow, I am done defending "my" alleged error that only comes about when YOU decide to break the statement down. It is completely inane to accuse me of using the "wrong" kind of proof when I used neither the name nor the formula for any proof.

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I assure you, Wolf, that every single person who studied the most rudimentary, high-school level of logic (probably you, too) would assert the above proof. Every single one of them will also be able to tell you that without assumption 3, the proof doesn't hold.
Then by all means, make assumption 3! Dear polyhedral gods you make it sound like I had a list of assumptions to start with and left it off or something. I do not in normal conversation need to account for the possibility of wonderwoman trying to land the invisible jet on the interstate.
And you wonder why I think philosophy is useless.
But this is what you fail to grasp here.
This is not philosophy. This is not opinion. This is not a worldview or a personal preference or anything else of the sort.

You think that your example of the car is of "proving that something does not exist by looking and not finding". It is not. I explained several times and in a clear manner why it isn't. This is a cold, hard, unquestionable fact. You, and nobody else, is capable to prove a negative by showing that you found no evidence of the positive. It is simply, maybe even simplistically, a logical fallacy. I have shown you, by actually breaking down your statement to it's component, that your example was of proof by negation and nothing else. I have even friggin shown you examples of ideas that seemed downright implausible, and that had you and me held this conversation in the not so distant past you would have insisted you can prove are wrong, but that turned out to be right - for example, quantum mechanics.

Notice well - this is an actual proof that it is objectively impossible to prove a negative by showing that no evidence was found:

Until...

I would argue that you see what I want you to see because from superposition that which you see can be determined for you. 'happy as pig in s!+!' is the appropriate law.

Hitdice

Mar 3, 2014, 02:58 pm

Who said the pig was in a superposition?

yellowdingo

Mar 3, 2014, 03:02 pm

Hitdice wrote:

Who said the pig was in a superposition?

I didnt say the pig was at superposition. I said it is happy because it is having reality determined for it from superposition.

Hitdice

Mar 3, 2014, 03:10 pm

Oh, okay, gotcha.

Given that you claim that what we see is what you want us to see, what evidence can you provide that you are in superposition? Given that I'm not happy as pig in s**t, can you make me that happy?

thejeff

Mar 3, 2014, 05:14 pm

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Skullford - Forgive me, I'm nub wrote:

I want a religion where I don't need to matter. I guess Zen would be the best. I feel no need for the ego Jenga society promotes. I also have no desire to promote another based upon others subservience.

As for the western 3 I am at a lost of the logic that a potter who makes a pot in a certain way gets mad at the pot for being that way and then pot must ask apologize to the potter so that when its scrapped it can spend time with the potter. No thanks.

Quote:

After a momentary silence spake
Some Vessel of a more ungainly Make;
"They sneer at me for leaning all awry:
What! did the Hand then of the Potter shake?"

"Why," said another, "Some there are who tell
Of one who threatens he will toss to Hell
The luckless Pots he marr'd in making--Pish!
He's a Good Fellow, and 'twill all be well.