Legendary Items: 2 questions


Rules Questions


Hello,

I have the following question about legendary items if anyone can help :)

1 - Upgradable: It says you can upgrade an existing version of a power, does that means you can NOT use it to add new power?
So for example let's say I have a ring of protection +1, I can upgrade it to +2, but I can't add Invisibility on it for example?
Or is it the same rules as crafting instead and you can add anything you want?

2 - Intelligent: It is very unclear (to me at least) what happens here when you select that ability. Is the item created following the rules of the corerule book as it is mentioned (Page 523) or is it only done following the rule on the mythic adventure book, or a mix of the two?

Meaning that the Legendary Ability "Intelligent" would actually be a weaker version of the normal one since you can't really choose the stats of your items as you wish (it would be only 10 for the three stats?) unless you take "intelligent" more than once?
Are you also restricted in the ability (using only the ability listed in mythic adventures)? Meaning you can't select spells for the item to cast itself, but only for you to cast through it?
If that's the case does it takes YOUR action or still uses the item action? Contrary to the core rule book rules where the item is the one casting the spells.

At the same time since the item can never be dominant I guess it would be overpowered since you could add any amount of ability to it without caring about how much ego it has.

Thanks!


In the case of 1 I think annding any new abilities is still an upgradd.

For 2 the weaker ability gives you an itterly loyal servant item that can upgrade as your rank goes up. A normal intelligent item given the stats a legdndary item can get could easily remove a pc from the hero role. Unless you like bowing to a magic ring accept the wraker version.

You would have access to the powers it says you can.


Mojorat wrote:
In the case of 1 I think annding any new abilities is still an upgrade.

I tend to think the same about 2 indeed. Thanks :)

The wording seems to indicate otherwise though for 1 :/

Quote:

Upgradable: This ability grants the bonded creature the ability to more easily increase the non-mythic magical power of the legendary item.

If the base magic item has a version with a higher bonus or greater version (such as a +1 longsword, a +2 light steel shield, a cloak of protection +3, an amulet of might fists +4, or a minor ring of inner fortitude), the
bonded creature can improve it by performing a special ritual.

She must spend a number of gold pieces equal to half the difference between the cost of the legendary item’s current, non-mythic base item and the greater version she wishes to upgrade the item into.

For example, she would pay 3,000 gp to upgrade a +1 longsword into a +2 longsword.

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My interpretation is it upgrades to a higher version of itself. So a weapon goes from +1 to +2 for example, or a +1 flaming (since you can take special abilities as an equivalent to bonuses). Same with armour.

For other items I interpret it to specifically be better items of the same type. So +1 cloak of protection to +2. Minor ring of elemental resistance to medium, belt +2StR to +4, not to +2 belt of STR and stone skin, or weasel etc. so in your example ring of protection +1 could be upgraded to +2 or higher but not +1 ring of protection AND imvisibility. Of course you could take intelligent and simply get the ability to cast invisibility at will.

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