Crossblooded Sorcerer / Sylvan bloodline

[fege]

Hi All,

First post but long time hoverer...

Question if I may regards playing a crossblooded/wildblooded sorcerer with the one of the blood lines being Sylvan.

As the Sylvan bloodline arcana and first level bloodline power are rolled in to one does this goes against the archetype rules? Specifically:

"...none of the alternate class features can replace or alter the same class feature."

Crossblooded makes you choose one of your 1st level bloodline powers.

Does this violate the rule - or by taking Sylvan as one of the bloodlines does this just mean your first level choice defaults to the Sylvan bloodline option and you cannot take the other bloodlines l1st bloodline power?

Thanks in advance :)

[Chris O'Reilly]

I would think you just couldn't take your other bloodlines power. The quiggong monk ruling seems most relevant and it seems to indicate that you can stack archetypes with choices as long as you make your choices such that the archetypes don't conflict.

[MrSin]

Supposedly wildblooded and crossblooded don't mix because they both alter bloodlines or something... even though wildblooded is really just another bloodline and functional on its own.

That said, Sylvan is probably the only odd one of the lot, or at least the only odd one I remember. I usually played it as though sylvan defaulted to being your first level choice. Don't think there's an official ruling. Whatever you do, it probably won't blow up the game. I'd suggest talking with your DM or GM about it and making a decision with him(or her, or yourself if your the one in charge of it all.)

[Secane]

As MrSin have said. Wildblooded and Crossblooded can't mix.

If this is for PFS, then it is a total no go. PFS sticks to the FAQ and follows Paizo rulings.

If you are playing this combination in a homebrew, then speak to your GM/DM.
Allowing wildblooded and Crossblooded to mix is usually not too big a deal to most GMs.
I myself have allowed a Sage/Dragon Cross-Wild blooded sorceress in a homebrew game I'm running.

[fege]

Thanks all, appreciate the responses.

I am playing a home game so will refer to the GM for adjudication :)

The combo I'm looking at playing is Sage/Sylvan - We are a 4 person home game group so with 3 PC's I am trying to cover several angles at once.

[Secane]

A Sage/Dragon Cross-Wildblooded can cover a lot of roles.

The character my player ended up with is a knowledge monkey & blaster that is able to complete all knowledge checks via the Breath of Experience feat
Breath of Experience - (100+ in age elf/gnome/dwarf, gets +2 in all knowledge & profession and can do them untrained.)

Just be careful with your ability scores. The same character has very low saves, even for his will save thanks to the -2 to will saves of cross-blooded. He also required a house-ruling allowing him to access the human favoured class bonus of knowing more spells.

I allowed these changes to help his character stay in-tune with his backstory.
Sage/dragon is not truly optimized.

Best of luck for your character.

[Bardess]

The only combination I'd rule out is Empyreal/Sage, as you can't cast spells both with Int and Wis. For Sylvan, I'd enforce the restriction that you must take the animal companion at 1st level.
I myself tried an Empyreal/Sylvan build as the healer/buffer/jolly of the party. I made her choose animal companion, woodland stride, sacred cistern, conviction, and soul of the fey.