Petition to add Lickytoad plushie to the free / item rerolls

[Quintin Verassi]

Hey, I was just in my local shop doing shop stuff and grabbed one of these guys, and was just wondering if this will be added to the reroll list. It is an official Paizo product, so it seems as legit as the T-Shirt etc for rerolls.

[trollbill]

I whole heartedly agree. I already have collected more than a enough t-shirts from my players that don't fit me, and having an option other than taking your shirt off in the middle of the game may get some of our female players back.

[Sior]

I will always stand opposed to the petitions to grant these little guys a free reroll. If you get something, you should get it because you want it, not because of some potential value elsewhere.

But then, I had my heart set on the Dogslicer Ale shirt from Gen Con long before they said it would grant a reroll. Even have two goblin plushies (both versions) because they're adorable and my wife loves 'em. We call 'em Ruckus and Mayhem. Heck, I bought the folios to actually use them as character sheets (which reminds, I need to update both of them...). The reroll is just a nice bonus that I don't even use 100% of the time.

Does it suck that the shirts for rerolls are mostly out of stock or bad sizes? Yeah. But that's the way of it sadly.

[Dieben]

Petitions are inherently an attempt to force an issue whereas asking nicely for something is an act that opens up discussion on it.

Forcing an issue has as much success as forcing a lock, it is generally not going to get you any further and will likely close off the route to where you want to go.

[Master of Rhetoric]

Dieben wrote:

Petitions are inherently an attempt to force an issue whereas asking nicely for something is an act that opens up discussion on it.

Forcing an issue has as much success as forcing a lock, it is generally not going to get you any further and will likely close off the route to where you want to go.

Petitions are an established function of a democratic society that allow the community to voice their support for, among other things, a policy change. In a situation where petitions are legally delineated--such as, for instance, legal systems that require petitions achieve a certain amount of signatures before its issue will be considered in a voting situation--a petition might be seen as forcing something, but the existence of the provisions for how that works essentially invite the petition to occur. In a situation like this, where the petition is information, it merely shows the presence (or absence, depending on the quantity of signatories) of public support for an idea.

[Dieben]

Master of Rhetoric wrote:

Dieben wrote:

Petitions are inherently an attempt to force an issue whereas asking nicely for something is an act that opens up discussion on it.

Forcing an issue has as much success as forcing a lock, it is generally not going to get you any further and will likely close off the route to where you want to go.

Petitions are an established function of a democratic society that allow the community to voice their support for, among other things, a policy change. In a situation where petitions are legally delineated--such as, for instance, legal systems that require petitions achieve a certain amount of signatures before its issue will be considered in a voting situation--a petition might be seen as forcing something, but the existence of the provisions for how that works essentially invite the petition to occur.

While all of that is true, the issue here is that message boards are neither democracies or legal systems. Petitions in those settings are necessary in order to have an issue considered at all. This is due to the sheer size of such operations and the ramifications of their decisions. Whereas here, on a message board, ideas already receive notice and attention when they are posted. The developers and administrators are incredibly active on here and have proven to be responsive to posts regardless of the size of the thread.

continued wrote:

In a situation like this, where the petition is information, it merely shows the presence (or absence, depending on the quantity of signatories) of public support for an idea.

Proposing a discussion on a board is inherently a way for people discuss and take sides on the pertinent issue. Comparatively, a message board petition does not serve the same function as it does in the physical world. On a board, a petition is, in addition to being redundant, an attempt to strong-arm the policy makers/administration into complying with a vocal minority's demands or responding in a more immediate timeframe than the admin may find desirable.

The societal conventions regarding the usage of petitions is significantly different between the real and the digital worlds, particularly in a community such as this.

[Cormac O'Bron]

High time for a petition. I've asked nicely on the boards previously, and even talked to Mike Brock in person about it. His, albeit jokingly, response was that since it was the one thing he had held out about with his wife, he was sticking to his guns. My wife, son, and I all play and run games at cons now. We are there for multiple days and often times at different tables, so our one portfolio can't cut it. We like wearing other shirts at cons (I'm a Browncoat) and our Goblin plushies (Grungebutt and Flingapoo) are beloved family members and travel with us to every con.