Could PFO Thrive with No Unsanctioned PvP?


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You know what will happen if that came to pass?

There would suddenly arise a massive NPC barbarian invasion, the massive kingdom would fall, and we'd all get back at fighting comfortably amongst ourselves again trying to rebuild.

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You know what will happen if that came to pass?

There would suddenly arise a massive NPC barbarian invasion, the massive kingdom would fall, and we'd all get back at fighting comfortably amongst ourselves again trying to rebuild.

Wouldn't that be cool if they handled runaway power blocks in that fashion? How fun!

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What it guarantees, virtually, is that if you lose your settlement you will it will probably be months if not years before you have one in your control again.

Imagine, you lose a Tier 3 settlement, now you are a refugee with access to just your tier 1 skills now. You lost it with tier 3 skills, so what makes you think you will recapture it with tier 2 skills?

Then there is the alignment issue. You will have to find a settlement that meets your alignment. Then even if that does exists, you will be a probationary member to their settlement, and may not get first round dibs on training. Then at some point, long down the road, are you going to convince them to go to war to recapture your former settlement?

Why would they risk a war for you. Why would they help you set up your own settlement, and potentially become a competitor for resources?

The loss of a settlement, especially a top tier settlement, is like a collective, temporary, but potentially long term, character wipe.

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Bluddwolf wrote:
...you will be a probationary member to their settlement, and may not get first round dibs on training...

Most would be unlikely to get first round training in any event, but doesn't it make more sense if active training is only required for new skills, whereas simply belonging to the t3-facility settlement might be all that is needed to maintain/refresh/renew a skill you have already acquired? So as soon as you are accepted into 't3 Town II' you regain your trained t3 skills without having to queue up for a training slot. True, by that time, you would surely be ready to queue up for a training slot for new skills you have gained the exp to achieve.


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Bluddwolf wrote:
...you will be a probationary member to their settlement, and may not get first round dibs on training...
Most would be unlikely to get first round training in any event, but doesn't it make more sense if active training is only required for new skills, whereas simply belonging to the t3-facility settlement might be all that is needed to maintain/refresh/renew a skill you have already acquired? So as soon as you are accepted into 't3 Town II' you regain your trained t3 skills without having to queue up for a training slot. True, by that time, you would surely be ready to queue up for a training slot for new skills you have gained the exp to achieve.

I was under the impression it was only certain skills you lost if you no longer had access to the training facility.(I may be wrong on this as I admit I wasn't paying much attention). I got the impression there were skill such as making an assassins mask or some cleric skills for example where access to a temple would be needed. It certainly doesn't make sense that losing access to a training facility would make a fighter forget how to do a riposte

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Agreed, Steelwing. If your and my take on it were actually what the developer intends it just wouldn't fit. Something about the picture ain't right.

I'm optimist enough to expect that we don't quite have the developers' concept, and that however they are conceiving of it working will make sense.

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Bluddwolf wrote:

What it guarantees, virtually, is that if you lose your settlement you will it will probably be months if not years before you have one in your control again.

Imagine, you lose a Tier 3 settlement, now you are a refugee with access to just your tier 1 skills now. You lost it with tier 3 skills, so what makes you think you will recapture it with tier 2 skills?

That old place, not so much. But devs say there will be huuuuge... tracks of land in the frontier either empty or inhabited by new (likely inexperienced or unorganized) groups for your cohesive group to move into. One fish beat you up, but change ponds and suddenly you can be quite a big fish again.

And nothing says you can't plot/scheme/assist their downfall from your new spot.

tl;dr I'm pretty sure it wasn't until post #2157 that I joined this thread...

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Serious legs...

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Serious legs...

Fixed that link... <rockin' like an old man can...>

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Nihimon wrote:
Serious legs...

Fixed that link... <rockin' like an old man can...>

I see your legs and raise you Good Boots

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Bringslite wrote:
Being wrote:
Nihimon wrote:
Serious legs...

Fixed that link... <rockin' like an old man can...>

I see your legs and raise you Good Boots

Speaking of boots...

(( This is a very dangerous road for me, btw. Sharing music links is one of my favorite things to do... ))

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Mmm... I dunno: the sitar on that acid mother's piece was a little pedantic I felt... you can do better I am sure, Nihimon.

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Mmm... I dunno: the sitar on that acid mother's piece was a little pedantic I felt... you can do better I am sure, Nihimon.

The Acid Mothers' piece was Skwiziks' contribution. He has interesting tastes... :)

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... you can do better I am sure, Nihimon.

Well, since we're on the subject of boots... Might I suggest you bang your boots and keep your head down.

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Then there's the cavalry's Boots and Saddles. Of course, it's music like going to mess is dining... but...

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Nihimon wrote:
Serious legs...

Yet another EVE tradition is ported over. Pick topical controversy, name said controversy in title, THREADNAUGHT!!!

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