Monk archetype duelist help!


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Trying to decide which monk archetype for my duelist build to take. Torn between MoMS 2/Lore Warden 6 and MM 1/Lore Warden 7. Any suggestions? Also is Crane Style fused with Snake Style a worthwhile combo?


If you want to be very defensive oriented then those two styles are very good. If you have deflect arrows as well you can negate one ranged and one melee attack each round and on the following one gain a huge AC bonus dues to Snake Style (assuming you push Sense Motive).

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are you actually headed for the duelist prestige class? if so, the crane feats might be less attractive since they replicate the duelists parry/riposte abilities (the feats are better, frankly, but you might not want to spend them if you'll get class abilities anyways).

also- snake style lets you deal piercing damage, which means you can use unarmed strikes for duelist abilities (like precise strike)... depending on your build you might want to avoid sacrificing flurry because its an easy way to get an extra attack (which is really useful for a 1hand weapon wielder, whose damage naturally lags behind 2handers and 2WFs)


Crane style feats may interfere with parry/riposte but I don't believe that they completely block each other, you can still use crane wing for the first incoming attack and parry for the next, if you have not use snake fang.

Yeah crane and snake style is a wonderful combo. See this build I posted a while ago:

Human

1 Lore Warden Weapon Finesse, Dodge, Mobility
2 Lore Warden Dervish Dance, Combat Expertise
3 MoMS Snake Style, Snake Fang
4 Lore Warden
5 Lore Warden Improved Trip, Fury's Fall
6 Lore Warden
7 Lore Warden Crane Style, Crane Wing
8 Duelist
9 Duelist Greater Trip
10 Duelist
11 Duelist Crane Riposte, Combat Reflexes
12 Duelist
13 Duelist Critical Focus
14 Duelist
15 Duelist Versatile Critical
16 Duelist Deflect Arrows
17 Duelist Two Weapon Fighting
18 Lore Warden
19 Lore Warden Blind Fight, Moonlight Stalker
20 Lore Warden Improved Initiative


Parry and Crane do stack, so you can use parry to deflect an attack from an ally, and then crane something that'd hit you.

I'm not sure but, I think you could use unarmed off hand with TWF as a duelist anyway, and you can't flurry in light armor.

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Thank you very much for your responses! They've given me some great insights.

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