On the two reference documents I know of, drow & drow nobles in the bestiary are listed as being immune to sleep. However, in the character creation rules, they have normal elven immunities. The +2 versus enchants & MAGIC sleep effect immune. So, as the title implies, are all non pc drow immune to every sleep effect? And sleeping period, actually.
I doubt and hope this isn't the case, but as written they neither sleep nor can be forced to fall asleep. Looking for either an errata or confirmation please!
On the two reference documents I know of, drow & drow nobles in the bestiary are listed as being immune to sleep. However, in the character creation rules, they have normal elven immunities. The +2 versus enchants & MAGIC sleep effect immune. So, as the title implies, are all non pc drow immune to every sleep effect? And sleeping period, actually.
I doubt and hope this isn't the case, but as written they neither sleep nor can be forced to fall asleep. Looking for either an errata or confirmation please!
they only have the standard elven immunities
which makes them immune to magical effects that put them to sleep
such as the deep slumber spell or the slumber hex.
they still sleep normally
they are just better protected against a Witch's primary offensive tool
I am glad to see you think that. But as written the bestiaries state "Immune Sleep" on the drow entries, and nothing of typical elven immunities. I really do agree with you Moonwhisper, but the dm for a game I'm in basically called in a rule 0 because of the way the bestiary is stated. So I'd like proof otherwise. As is, I can only point out that player characters who are drow only get magic sleep effect immunity.
I am glad to see you think that. But as written the bestiaries state "Immune Sleep" on the drow entries, and nothing of typical elven immunities. I really do agree with you Moonwhisper, but the dm for a game I'm in basically called in a rule 0 because of the way the bestiary is stated. So I'd like proof otherwise. As is, I can only point out that player characters who are drow only get magic sleep effect immunity.
it's a flaw in the bestiary statblocking methods
when it lists "Sleep" under immunities, they generally mean magic sleep because the creature clearly isn't engaging in natural sleep during combat.
it is a flaw in the wording
Guess I'll have to try arguing that next time it comes up. It helps that the bestiary entry also states the +2 vs enchantment. Implies that they follow the same rules.
Not the biggest deal, but I figured I'd try for concrete proof. Shame, it'd be nice if we could use the drow poison we got off previous enemies on future drow enemies we know are ahead. Thankie, and I welcome any other thoughts on the matter that might help one way or another!
Elves in most editions of DnD do not sleep. Rather they think about their past in a sort of waking dream for 4 hours to get the effects of sleep (spellcasters still needed 8 hours of downtime to regain spells).
Pathfinder kept elven immunity to magic sleep effects, but without going into the whole "elves don't sleep, they remember" idea.
Drow in previous editions are capable of this trance state but usually decide to sleep because their lives are filled with so much evil (done to them and they do to others) that they prefer the oblivion of sleep to remembering everything they have done/was done to them. They retain the immunity to magical sleep.
This is the history-focused view on how sleep/elves/drow work and how I still play it, but nothing in Pathfinder lets elves ignore sleep that I know of. Only magic sleep effects.