| D'arandriel |
I realize its sub optimal, but I would like to try and make a Tolkein-esque Elven warrior (think around the time of the The Silmarillion / pre LotR) - and I think an Elven Paladin fits then idea pretty well.
Assume a 25 point buy. I would take the Elven favored class bonus to Lay on Hands and Fey Foundling as a trait to mitigate the reduced Con and HPs. I would like to make a "switch hitter" utilizing archery for ranged attacks (very "Elven") and probably use the Elven Curve Blade in melee. As far as archetypes, I'm thinking the Oath of Vengeance Paladin, but open to mixing in or going with other archetypes as well.
Anyway, I'm open to any feats, traits and any other ideas anyone would like to suggest.
| Krul |
Ranger makes a much better switch hitter, and is iconic to the Elven Warrior type also.. still, if your set on this path... here's the stats I'd use for an elf paladin.
25 Point Build (Before Racial Adjustments) - No Dump Stats
7 Strength 15
5 Dexterity 14
5 Constitution 14
1 Intelligence 11
Wisdom 10
7 Charisma 15
Afterward.. you get, 15, 16, 12, 13, 10, 15
put your level 4 bonus into strength or charisma and your level 8 into the one you didn't chose.
Alternatively you could dump Wisdom and Intelligence for more in the other important stats... if you go that rout It would be fairly easy to dump intelligence all the way to 8 for 3 more points, you'd still end up with a 10 there after racial adjustments.
| The Shaman |
The stats look ok, I would probably try to get a 16-14 instead of 15-15, but that is your call. I personally prefer to have a decent amount of SP, perhaps even as favourite class bonuses, though, and paladins have a very decent skill list. If anything, I´d lower wisdom - it could be your paladin is naive or just a bit airheaded, and the elven bonuses to perception and resistance to enchantments cover some of the weaknesses.
BTW, another option you may be interested in is having a bit lower strength (enough to power attack, of course) and using dervish dance with a single scimitar. It does require a few feats to work, though.
| The Shaman |
The stats look ok, I would probably try to get a 16-14 instead of 15-15, but that is your call. I personally prefer to have a decent amount of SP though, and paladins have a very decent skill list, so I might actually be tempted to pick up skill points as a class bonus. You could lower either intelligence or wisdom - it could be your paladin is naive or just a bit airheaded, and the elven bonuses to perception and resistance to enchantments cover some of the weaknesses. Or it could be you are ok with other people handling the skill department... though that charisma is a horrible thing to waste.
BTW, another option you may be interested in is having a bit lower strength (enough to power attack, of course) and using dervish dance so both your attack and damage are based off dexterity. It does require a few feats, though.
| D'arandriel |
The stats look ok, I would probably try to get a 16-14 instead of 15-15, but that is your call. I personally prefer to have a decent amount of SP though, and paladins have a very decent skill list, so I might actually be tempted to pick up skill points as a class bonus. You could lower either intelligence or wisdom - it could be your paladin is naive or just a bit airheaded, and the elven bonuses to perception and resistance to enchantments cover some of the weaknesses. Or it could be you are ok with other people handling the skill department... though that charisma is a horrible thing to waste.
BTW, another option you may be interested in is having a bit lower strength (enough to power attack, of course) and using dervish dance so both your attack and damage are based off dexterity. It does require a few feats, though.
Definitely not interested in dervish dance since the character will be feat starved as it is. I would love to do this as a TWF, but again, due to lack of feats, that doesn't seem like an option. I'm happy to go with a TWF and archer.
I've considered a ranger, and still considering it, but would prefer the concept of a paladin.
| XMorsX |
Capitilize on the incresed dexterity and use a pole for more AoOs. For the stats I would do after racial mod something like this:
Str 16, Dex 14, Con 14, Int 10, Wis 8, Cha 15 (+1 at 4, 8, 12, 16, 20 lvls)
Traits: Defender of the Society, Opportunistic Gambler
Elven Fighter (Polearm Master) 2 / Paladin (Oath of Vengeance) 18
1st - Fey Foundling
1st - Power Attack
2nd - Combat Reflexes
3rd - Deadly Aim
5th - Extra Lay on Hands
7th - Skill Focus: Survival
9th - Eldritch Heritage (Orc Bloodline - Touch of Rage)
11th - Improved Eldritch Heritage (Orc Bloodline - Strength of the Beast)
13th - Extra Lay on Hands
15th - Greater Mercy
17th - Greater Eldritch Heritage (Orc Bloodline - Power of Giants)
19th - Ultimate Mercy
Favored class paladin, favored class bonus every level.
Two levels of polearm fighter will let you fight with bardiche adjacent enemies too, and will give you some extra feats. Deadly aim will increse the damage you do when you have to use a longbow.
| LoneKnave |
You could take 1 level of the Dawnflower Dervish bard archetype. There's nice synergy with CHA between Bard and Paladin. You give up a BAB, but it gives you battle dance, which makes up for it (and of course dervish dance). It's a lot less feat starving than TWF, though if you want to maximize your attacks I guess you'll try to do that anyway. A single weapon also has better synergy with your divine bond.
A way to do that with Scimitar (and hence Dervish Dancer) would be to also take a level of monk and get Crusader's flurry. That would also give you a bunch of bonus feats, most notably unarmed strike, which would open up style feats, which are pretty good. I don't recommend it that much, just thought of that as an alternative for going TWF.
| Samasboy1 |
Well, elf does scream bow-user to me. So...
Elf Paladin (Divine Hunter)
Str 13 (3pt)
Dex 16 (10pt)
Con 14 (5pt)
Int 10 (0pt)
Wis 12 (2pt)
Cha 14 (5pt)
After Racials
Str 13
Dex 18
Con 12
Int 12
Wis 12
Cha 14
Precise Shot is a bonus feat at 1st level. Take Weapon Finesse as your 1st level feat. Use Elven Curved Blade with Weapon Familiarity.
Feats should focus on archery, but try to work Power Attack in. Something like...
1 Precise Shot (bonus)
1 Weapon Finesse
3 Point Blank Shot
5 Rapid Shot
7 Power Attack
9 Deadly Aim
11 Manyshot
13 Weapon Focus-bow
15 Improved Precise Shot
| XMorsX |
Another simple but really effective Paladin build has been made by Damocles Guile [url=http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2pbf5?I-need-a-good-fighter-build#17]here[url]
For stats go like this (after racial mod):
Str 14, Dex 14, Con 12, Int 10, Wis 8, Cha 18 (+1 at 4, 8, 12, 16, 20 lvl)
Traits:
Reactionary
Purity of Faith
Feats:
1st - Fey Foundling
3rd - Power Attack
5th - Deadly Aim
7th - Extra Lay on Hands
9th - Extra Lay on Hands
11th - Extra Lay on Hands
13th - Extra Lay on Hands
15th - Extra Lay on Hands
17th - Greater Mercy
19th - Ultimate Mercy
12 Con really does not matter since with this build you have ABSRUPT amount of swift healing. With the elf favored class bonus it becomes even better.