Spell casters and offensive action


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I build and shuffle the deck for Seoni. I draw her 6 cards from the top of her deck to populate her hand. Are those the cards she has to start with? If not, what's the procedure for picking a good starting hand?

Related: When Ezren or Seoni want to "attack" do they just roll their arcane + modifier for damage or do they specifically have to play an offensive spell card such as Force Missile?


Q1. Yes you populate the hand by drawing her starting hand limit from a shuffled deck, you also have to have the character's "favorite card"

Q2. To do an "attack" as a spellcaster, you have to utilize a spell (or weapon). Seoni has an ability that lets her do a spell by discarding a card, while Ezren has a high number of spells. The standard attack is with the strength melee trait, then you wouldn't need a weapon or a spell.


sc24evr wrote:

Q1. Yes you populate the hand by drawing her starting hand limit from a shuffled deck, you also have to have the character's "favorite card"

Q2. To do an "attack" as a spellcaster, you have to utilize a spell (or weapon). Seoni has an ability that lets her do a spell by discarding a card, while Ezren has a high number of spells. The standard attack is with the strength melee trait, then you wouldn't need a weapon or a spell.

Thanks for clarifying that. So, do I keep drawing and discarding until I find the character's favorite card type (and the particular one I want)? Or, do I just pick it from the deck before shuffling?

For example, if Ezren gets an unlucky first draw (unlikely, but possible) and his first encounter is a tough monster he will be helpless unless he's got a suitable spell handy. There are only 8 offensive spell cards in the base set. If Seoni isn't playing I suppose Ezren could hog them all to ensure that he almost always has some offensive magic available. There's also a few cards that "evade" an encounter such as sleep and invisibility, but that just delays the encounter rather than eliminates it.

I just want to make sure that I'm playing the magic users correctly and that they're effective at clearing a location.


You draw a starting hand, and see if your favorite card type is included. If not you discard your entire hand and repeat.

If you run out of cards while doing this shuffle your discard and make it your deck.

After you have at least 1 card of your favorite card type you are not allowed to redraw if it is not the specific card you would like to have.

My Ezren has 4 offensive spells, so far I have not really run into problems with him when none are included in his opening hand.

He is very effective, I have been playing him in my solo game, paired up with Seelah. If I know where to find the villain I usually send in Ezren, backed by a blessing from Seelah he does massive damage with the right spell.

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Magabeus wrote:

You draw a starting hand, and see if your favorite card type is included. If not you discard your entire hand and repeat.

If you run out of cards while doing this shuffle your discard and make it your deck.

After you have at least 1 card of your favorite card type you are not allowed to redraw if it is not the specific card you would like to have.

My Ezren has 4 offensive spells, so far I have not really run into problems with him when none are included in his opening hand.

He is very effective, I have been playing him in my solo game, paired up with Seelah. If I know where to find the villain I usually send in Ezren, backed by a blessing from Seelah he does massive damage with the right spell.

Don't forget that once you DO get your favored card in a hand you've drawn, you shuffle all those discarded cards back into your deck before starting the game. Otherwise your character is pretty likely to die!


cartmanbeck wrote:
Don't forget that once you DO get your favored card in a hand you've drawn, you shuffle all those discarded cards back into your deck before starting the game. Otherwise your character is pretty likely to die!

Thanks for adding this, luckily I do not forget that in my games ;-)

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sc24evr wrote:
Q2. To do an "attack" as a spellcaster, you have to utilize a spell (or weapon). Seoni has an ability that lets her do a spell by discarding a card, while Ezren has a high number of spells. The standard attack is with the strength melee trait, then you wouldn't need a weapon or a spell.

No PC needs to have a weapon to use base STR or DEX for a combat check.


TClifford wrote:
No PC needs to have a weapon to use base STR or DEX for a combat check.

Where does it say this in the book? I read a line saying that without a weapon, you can use the MELEE skill or base STR, but i've never once seen DEX. It would kinda make the Monk's power pointless

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austinmonster wrote:
TClifford wrote:
No PC needs to have a weapon to use base STR or DEX for a combat check.
Where does it say this in the book? I read a line saying that without a weapon, you can use the MELEE skill or base STR, but i've never once seen DEX. It would kinda make the Monk's power pointless

You are correct, you can't use base Dex for a combat check without a weapon saying you get to use Dex (or using Sajan's power).

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