Two questions. Specific scroll and thrown weapon.


Rules Questions


1. I have a scroll of Summon Monster 2/Divine. I'm aware of what Summon Monster 2 does, but what's with the Divine part of it?

2. If I am correct in reading, only magic weapons with the Returning property come back after throwing it?

Liberty's Edge

Scrolls are a Spell Completion magic item. That mean that when you use them you complete the spell in them and that they maintain the difference between spells coming from the divine (cleric/druid) or arcane (bard, sorcerer and wizard) spell lists.
Bard, cleric and wizard all have the Summon monster line of spells, so Summon Monster 2/Divine mean the the scroll is the clerical version of summon monster and can be cast without problem by clerics or oracles but that it would require a Use Magic Device check when used by bards, sorcerers, wizards or witches.

PRD wrote:
Spell Completion: This is the activation method for scrolls. A scroll is a spell that is mostly finished. The preparation is done for the caster, so no preparation time is needed beforehand as with normal spellcasting. All that's left to do is perform the finishing parts of the spellcasting (the final gestures, words, and so on). To use a spell completion item safely, a character must be of high enough level in the right class to cast the spell already. If he can't already cast the spell, there's a chance he'll make a mistake. Activating a spell completion item is a standard action (or the spell's casting time, whichever is longer) and provokes attacks of opportunity exactly as casting a spell does.


Ah, that makes sense. Are Paladins able to use those scrolls fine as well since they're divine?


Pathfinder Rulebook Subscriber

The Paladin would also need to make a Use Magic Device check, as Summon Monster 2 is not on the Paladin spell list.


In order to use a scroll you must have the spell on your spell list and it must be the correct type (arcane or divine). Paladins are divine but they do not have Summon Monster II on their spell list.

The Paladin would need Use Magic Device to use the scroll.

- Gauss


Dang. Alright, thanks.


Yes, if you want your weapon to come back after you throw it, Returning is what you need.

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