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I find myself about to play in a Friends Campaign coming up here in the next week or so. He has agreed to let me play a Centaur like character- assuming I can build it to be closer to other player character races using the Race Building rules. (He's going to look over whatever I make up, and it is subject to change).
Anyways- before I send him anything for approval, I thought I should see what others thought about my build for the Centaur, and if anyone had any suggestion. I've been limited to around 15 Race points- and this is what I've come up with.
Centaur
Type
Monstrous Humanoid 3 RP
Size
Large 7 RP
(+2 Str, -2 Dex, -1 AC, -1 Attack roll, +1 CMB and CMD)
Base Speed
Standard 0 RP
(Base Speed 50 Feet)
Ability Score Modifier
Standard ( +2 Con, -2 Int, +2 Wis) 0 RP
(+2 Str Size, -2 Dex Size, +2 Con Race, -2 Int Race, +2 Wis Race)
Languages
Standard 0 RP
Racial Traits
Darkvision - RP
Hooves (Secondary) 1 RP
Fast 1 RP
Quadruped 2 RP
(+4 vs Trip, +10 Base Speed)
(May use Medium Armor and Weapons)
Total 14 RP
If you're allowed 15 RP then I suppose its fine. If you dropped Large and Fast you would match the core races in RP.
If you're allowed 15 RP then I suppose its fine. If you dropped Large and Fast you would match the core races in RP.
Agreed on the "Fast" bit. I'd be happy with a 40 speed as a quadrupedal player character.
I think he could leave the Large if he added in the following to balance it out:
Undersized Weapons (Ex) [-2 RP] Although a centaur is Large, its upper torso is the same size as that of a Medium humanoid's upper torso. As a result, it wields weapons and has a reach as if it were one size category smaller than its actual size (Medium for most centaurs).
Give him a total of what, 12, no?
I've used Centaurs as the "Mongol Horde" analog in my homebrew for years. Advanced Races is mighty handy for making them playable, now!
I like the large horse/medium torso concept. It would help a bunch. I have no idea what the proper RP value should be.
You could decide what they count as large or medium for (large for ac, bullrush, trip, etc medium for weapons, disarm, etc.) but that could prove needlessly complex.
Undersized Weapons (Ex) [-2 RP] Although a centaur is Large, its upper torso is the same size as that of a Medium humanoid's upper torso. As a result, it wields weapons and has a reach as if it were one size category smaller than its actual size (Medium for most centaurs).
The Quadruped racial ability already pretty much gives you 'Undersized Weapons' as well as a bonus against Trip and a bonus to your land speed (Why it gives you a bonus)
The Quadruped racial ability already pretty much gives you 'Undersized Weapons' as well as a bonus against Trip and a bonus to your land speed (Why it gives you a bonus)
Undersized Weapons (Ex) [-2 RP] Although a centaur is Large, its upper torso is the same size as that of a Medium humanoid's upper torso. As a result, it wields weapons and has a reach as if it were one size category smaller than its actual size (Medium for most centaurs).
Huh. Hadn't noticed that earlier.
As far as the land speed increase and bonuses, I think that's given to most quadrupeds (even Eidolons). I'm actually wondering why quadruped lets you keep the reach, as well.