Blending Manufactured and natural attacks?


Rules Questions


I'm still trying to understand how it works. If I attack with a longsword in regular hand. My iteratives gives three attacks, so longsword/longsword/longsword. After that do I do all of my natural attacks? So, if I had three iteratives of longsword, then unleash 20 secondary tentacle attacks or whatever ridiculous example. Or do the tentacle attacks replace an iterative?


If u have an 11/6/1 BAB and let's say a bite attack and claws

If you are only wielding one longsword then you would attack with the longsword normally at 11/6/1 and then you could attack with the bite and one claw as secondary attacks at -5 your full BAB (so 11-5=6) and they only get .5xSTR

My phone doesn't like to copy/paste stuff but I'm sure someone will come along with the quote out if the CRB

Basically you can use only the natural attacks that aren't being taking up using a weapon (so no claws if using a 2 hander) and any mixing of naturals with manufactured mean all naturals are secondary (-5 BAB and .5xSTR)


It looks like the penalty is steeper than that. Emphasis mine:

Core Rulebook wrote:
You can make attacks with natural weapons in combination with attacks made with a melee weapon and unarmed strikes, so long as a different limb is used for each attack. For example, you cannot make a claw attack and also use that hand to make attacks with a longsword. When you make additional attacks in this way, all of your natural attacks are treated as secondary natural attacks, using your base attack bonus minus 5 and adding only 1/2 of your Strength modifier on damage rolls. In addition, all of your attacks made with melee weapons and unarmed strikes are made as if you were two-weapon fighting. Your natural attacks are treated as light, off-hand weapons for determining the penalty to your other attacks. Feats such as Two-Weapon Fighting and Multiattack (see the Pathfinder RPG Bestiary) can reduce these penalties.


@PiIsExactly3:

The bolded part of that quote has been errata'd out some time ago.


So I use the highest BAB - 5 for each?


For each of the natural attacks yes

So your full attack if it was fleshed out with the same stuff as my first post with lets say a 20 STR would be

Longsword +16/+11/+6 (1d8+5), claw +11 (1d4+2), bite +11 (1d4+2)


Forseti wrote:

@PiIsExactly3:

The bolded part of that quote has been errata'd out some time ago.

No kidding? Do you happen to know the source so I can show my DM?


If your BAB is 11, then your attacks will look like that :
- Sword +11/+6/+1 (damage for the sword + [STR x 1]) AND Bite +6 AND claw +6 (both at normal damage + [STR x 0,5]).


Nevermind, I found it here:
http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/resources

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