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The Kickstarter said there would be Hero Lab files. Anyone know if these are coming any time soon?
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Goraxes wrote:
The Kickstarter said there would be Hero Lab files. Anyone know if these are coming any time soon?

Still finalizing and working out bugs. Should be soon.

Thanks Skeeter. Do you need people testing them? I'm more then happy to help find bugs while doing up my own Razor Coast stuff ;)

Thanks for the update Skeeter:)

Thanks for the offer but it's not bugs that are slowing hings down. Many classes and ideas took awhile to get coded correctly in the HL software. In example one new class has a Tikiman minion that is similar to the Summoner. But it was different enough that I couldn't use the existing mechanics that LW built for the sommoner class. So I was forced to write my own from scratch which took allot more time than using existing mechanics.

RC has lots of cases of very original ideas which is great to read. The downside is a rule that is a simple sentence to write could take 6 to 10 hours to try and code. =)

In effect because of RC new frame work and mechanics have actually been integrated directly into the HL software. For example under the covers how poisons work have been re-written from scratch. So lots of cool stuff has been going on actually.

It just may look like not much from the outside. Personally I am excited to get this into gamers hands as it was a very fun challenge to make fully functional. =)

Sounds like this is going to be great! We thank you for all your hard work:) I can't wait for my players to get up to level to play it and all the pieces fall into place. But as they are just getting to 2nd level I have time for you guys to dot the i's and cross the t's!

The 3 Things im waiting/hoping on... Fel Lycanthrope Template, All the NPC's (so i can add templates on to those with the kiss), And teh Disciple Class. :)
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Goraxes wrote:
The 3 Things im waiting/hoping on... Fel Lycanthrope Template, All the NPC's (so i can add templates on to those with the kiss), And teh Disciple Class. :)

Shadow has been a HUGE help with all this, and I can't imagine getting this done with out the extra effort. Been a labor of passion, that's for sure. The DCF has done a great job!

SG
Skeeter Green wrote:
Goraxes wrote:
The 3 Things im waiting/hoping on... Fel Lycanthrope Template, All the NPC's (so i can add templates on to those with the kiss), And teh Disciple Class. :)

Shadow has been a HUGE help with all this, and I can't imagine getting this done with out the extra effort. Been a labor of passion, that's for sure. The DCF has done a great job!

SG

What is the DCF?

Also, i was thinking of typing up some of the NPC's in Hero Lab for the early Use (Like Bethany Razor). Is there a way to find out who has and has not been done? I got no problem submitting any who have not been done.
Goraxes wrote:

What is the DCF?

Also, i was thinking of typing up some of the NPC's in Hero Lab for the early Use (Like Bethany Razor). Is there a way to find out who has and has not been done? I got no problem submitting any who have not been done.

DCF = Deep Cave Frogs - The name for the group doing the coding for the HeroLab files.

My understanding is that we have all the NPCs done, and are just finalizing the last few tweaks. (There is some interesting stuff that we are doing with these files to help everyone out, and there are extra steps involved in that. Though you will have to wait and see what they are. If I give too much info, the Frog Gods might smite me, so you just have to wait for it.)

What I will say though, is that FGG listened to customer feedback on their previous products to enhance the experience and useability on this one.

Umarian
Deep Cave Frog

Minor wrinkles in the RA files that got ironed out. Had to spend a few dragon's hoards getting all the Hero Lab files for it work properly, but all in all it was a worthwhile expense and keeps the wife entertained:) I have had fun tweaking the monsters for more mayhem to throw at the players<WEG>! Now if I could only get the frogs to take flies instead of gold pieces<G>! <JK> Appreciate all the hard work from all the frogs, really do!

Well we are all excited to get it out. Like Shadow mentioned, there was a lot of interesting coding that went into it. We tried to help with the editing process as well and making sure that the stat-blocks were correct, sent feedback and notes to the editors and writers to help clarify some things, and all in all a huge team effort to get the best possible product into your hands. Both written and electronic format. The DCF's got the finished product the same time that you all did, so we have been diligently working to get the final changes into the HL files.

I tried to keep out of the RC coding and work on other future projects since Shadow is running this campaign for our group. Since I was not directly involved in the coding of it, I am just working on doing the final testing this week. Hopefully, this will catch the last of the tweaks, but there is a place for people to report anything that is missed.

Brvheart, as you mentioned, there was a learning curve for FGG with the RA files that had an unexpected impact on the customer. They did listen to the feedback, and that is how myself and a few other people got involved to help them with these files. We have gone to great pains to help prevent this from happening on such a scale again. I don't know how much I am allowed to say on the subject just yet, but I assure all of you that you will be surprised at how we have worked it to deal with that exact problem. Once the files are released, I will elaborate on this more.

(As far as the flies go...Skeeter been keeping us locked up in the deepest of the caves with only our laptops for light so that we get this finished...He keeps forgetting to feed us though...send some flies our way! lol)

I am airshipping some big South Texas flies your way!!! Hey, how did that Cucaracha get in there?

pirate dot.
brvheart wrote:
pirate dot.

Is that a hint Brvheart? :)

I had told them that I would finish my review and have it to them yesterday, but I missed that deadline. My younger brother just found out that he is being deployed to a 'hot zone' at the end of this month, so I was trying to spend time with him over the weekend. It just so happens that he came in from SC the one weekend that I was in Dallas from IL.

If I have to stay up all night tonight, I am going to have this ready to pass back to the DCF's sometime tomorrow. I know everyone is eagerly awaiting it.

It wasn't meant to be THAT much of a hint, sorry. Glad you got time to spend with your brother. Was just curious for an update prior to the Frogs all heading out to NTRPG Con. You don't have to lose sleep on my account.

Well, I found a small snag while I was doing the code review, so we are working on getting that part ironed out. Should only take a few days to get this wrinkle out.

Umarian
Deep Cave Frog

You mean you don't prescribe to the tried and true Microsoft formula of releasing a beta and letting the end users tell you of all the bugs? Thanks, a few more days or weeks - what ever it takes:)

Then Released or then next step? :D
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brvheart wrote:
You mean you don't prescribe to the tried and true Microsoft formula of releasing a beta and letting the end users tell you of all the bugs? Thanks, a few more days or weeks - what ever it takes:)

All evidence to the contrary (yes, our products have errors, shhhhh, dont tell anyone lol), we do TRY and catch everything before our books, files, etc go out the door.

its amazing, you can go through something with a fine tooth comb, and then the minute it hits print or whatever media publication form, one or two of the gremlins sneaks its way back in there.

it can be very hard to take sometimes. Other times, its downright soul-crushing. But, hey, there's always the next book to hope you got 100% right!

SG

PS free advice: anyone who wants to be an editor for the rpg world, grow lots of thick skin before you dive in. If you make one mistake, no matter the size, you'll hear about it....

It is sad, but true. There are soo many combinations of things with PF, and other 3PP products or house-rules, that the coders can not think of every combination to test. The good thing about the way that we are doing the files is that we will be able to update most errors a lot faster than most other products.

I have edited a few in my time so I know what you mean. You can't catch everything as much as you try and as many proofreaders as you get. All you can do is the best you can.
FYI, that was a joke about the Microsoft method btw:)

Any updates on ETA? :D im getting really excited!

ALSO: Is there a razor Coast specific forums for DM's to talk, etc?
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Goraxes wrote:
Any updates on ETA? :D im getting really excited!

I was able to get an update today from LW. The file is still in the review phase on their side. They have a big release coming out soon so they were trying to finish that one up. Once they finish their review process, and give it their seal of approval, we (The Deep Cave Frogs) can send BlondeFrog the details to include in the newsletter. (Maybe like why it went to LW for their review. I am sure that some are wondering about that one!)

We are excited to get it released to, and are anxiously awaiting the release of this monster.

Umarian
Deep Cave Frog

LW, I am guessing that has something to do with the Herolab people? In any case thanks for the update. Yes, a lot of us are anxious for this release!
@Gorax, there is the Razor Coast thread on here that a lot of us post on.
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brvheart wrote:
LW, I am guessing that has something to do with the Herolab people? In any case thanks for the update. Yes, a lot of us are anxious for this release!

LW (LoneWolf) is the company that runs HL.

They did get back to us last night (people are working around the clock to get this in your hands) and gave us a couple of minor notes to look at. I should be able to address their points today and get the needed changes in.

Basically, what this means is that we are very close to the end. It shouldn't be much longer until it is in your hands.

That is good news indeed! Once again, thanks for the update Umarian!

Excellent!

Now that LW has put out their update hopefully Razor Coast is next on their list to get done at least for their review anyway.

Sorry I missed your post before Brvheart. LW has done their review, and we have one more step to get it out. Sorry for the delays. Was hoping to have it live last week, but having to wait myself.

Thank-you again for the update:) Hopefully this last step won't take too long after Paizo Con.

Any chance we can find out the cost of the RC HL Files?
Goraxes wrote:
Any chance we can find out the cost of the RC HL Files?

If you contributed to the RC Kickstarter, they were available as a $15 add-on. If not, I don't think that they have announced the cost yet.

The Rappan Athuk files are $14.99 so would doubt they would be too much more than that. Sounds like there is more to this one so it might run a bit more though.
Speaking of it though, I started working on some of the NPC's and am wondering if you are using a different Wereshark template as I come up with slightly different stats for Dalang in Hybrid and Shark form?
brvheart wrote:
Speaking of it though, I started working on some of the NPC's and am wondering if you are using a different Wereshark template as I come up with slightly different stats for Dalang in Hybrid and Shark form?

Honestly, I don't know. My DM is supposed to be running my group through RC, so I tried very hard to stay away from the monsters. I don't want to know what is coming if I am going to be a player in it.

Maybe Lou or someone could comment on this?
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I think they are all at PaizoCon. Maybe they will see it when they get back.

Any word now that PaizoCon is over? :D

I am getting to think they are waiting for the books to arrive to release it.

Sorry folks. I am waiting on something from the Project Manager, and the PM is having to wait on something from the lawyers. That is "supposed" to be the final step.
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Ruh roh, we have lawyers involved now. I give up on this coming out before Christmas.
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ROFL! It wont be that long. We are close. Can't say how close, because I don't know for certain, but we are VERY close.

A link for everyone's amusement while we wait:
Zombie pirates.

first thing i do when i wake up is check this forum... cant wait for the files.....

LOL Hopefully it won't be much longer Goraxes. There has been movement this week... Can't give more specifics than that though as I don't have more than that.

Know the feeling there Goraxes! It is starting to remind me of a guy we hired to work on our deck. He said he would be back on Monday, of course he never did say which Monday! Been living with that menana attitude down here ever since! That was back in '93!
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How is this for a RC Starting point:

Spoiler:
I don't remember the name of the ship, as my book is not in front of me... The Slave ship that's fore sale. Its the ship my players are starting on. They were on there way to the Razor when They ALMOST defeated the slavers. Almost. Now when Bethany Gets to the ship its pretty weak. She takes it and promises to release the slaves when they get back to port.

DO to all there Gear being tossed in a chest to sell, they need to list everything they had. She gives them some masterwork gear to tide them in town till she can sort it all out. They will get all there gear back in a few days of game time... But for now it forces them to hang around town.
Goraxes wrote:

How is this for a RC Starting point:

** spoiler omitted **

ACK!!! BAD Goraxes!!!! I try to read these posts and don't want to know about the stuff. My DM is supposed to be running it for our group, so I am trying to stay away from the details. LOL

Actually, I think there has been a lot of discussion about how to start it on this thread here.

Sorry... the ship is actually talked about in the players guide tho

Just giving you a hard time. =)

Now he did put as a spoiler:) Probably better on the other thread or the Necro forum though.
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