Check my Roc Companion pls


Rules Questions


My roc has raised some eyebrows & questions last couple of games.
It rampaged through the monster opposition, especially when he takes hold of single bosses with grapple, they simply cannot get out. currently running Rise of the Runelords. In my opinion it's all in the buffs.. if i get time to boost him up he's becomes godzilla.

To double check im posting it here,
to make sure I'm not stacking stuff that I can't.

THX in advance for your watchfull eye & comments.

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Druid lvl 10 (archtype: Eagle Shaman)
Animal Domain & Boon Companion

Roc companion 9 HD from druid 10 list:
base str 12 dex 19 con 9 int 2 wis 13 cha 11
7th adv str +8 dex -2 con +4 druid str +3 dex +3 con+1 int +1*
str 23 dex 20 con 14 int 3 wis 13 cha 11

*I've given him int3 to improve communication & tactical gameplay. Not for feats orso. He's still considered in "polly want a cracker?" speach.

*********************** Large Base ************************

HP (9HD) 58,5 (9*4,5+18)
space: 10' reach 5'
Natural AC breakdown:+5 N (base) +3 N (7th advance) + 6 N (druid) +2 N (2x imp nat armor feat)

ac 34
(10 -1large +16nat +3leather barding, +5dex +1deflect amulet)

Saves base 6 6 3
stats 2 5 1
Fort 8 Ref 11 Wil 4

Fly: 13 (7rank +5dex +3class -2Large)
Percept 5 (+1rank+ 3class +1wis)
Linq Com -3 (+1rank -4int)
tricks 9
attack1 attack2 come defend down guard seek fetch perform +1?

Feats: 1) armor proficiency light 2) fly by attack
3) PA 4) Imp natural armor 9) lvl druid: Multi Attack
5) Imp natural armor2

natural attack primary 2 talon + primary bite
bab: +6 ini: +5
attack: 11 (+6bab -1large +6str)
dmg d6+6 [Grab] (talon) d8+6 (bite)

Grapple breakdown
CMB +6 bab +6 str +1size
bonus GRAB +4 innitiate/maintain
start grapple +5 maintain
Initiate 17
maintain 22
CMD-grapple 10 base +6 bab +5 dex
+6str +1 size
=28
*********************** Large BUFFED *********************

size Large -BUFFED
BUFFS x8
Bull strength (2) 1 min/lvl
Cats grace (2)
Bears endurance (2)
Barkskin (2) 10 min/lev
strong jaw (4)
Resinous skin (3)
Atavism (4)
Greater magic fang (3) 1 hr/lev

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attack: 16 (+6bab -1large +10str+1 magic fang)
dmg 11 (+10 str +1 magic fang)
dmg 2d6 [GRAB] (talon) 2d8 (bite)
AC 41 31 (unbuffed-3 boarding-taken off armor) +4 dex (cats-atavism) +4 enhancement (bark) +2 nat (ata)
str 31 dex 28 con 22 int 7 wis 17 cha 15
hp: 9*4,5 +6*9 =94 5/piercing
Grapple breakdown
CMB +6 bab +10 str +1size
bonus GRAB +4 innitiate/maintain
resinous +2 circum innitiate/maintain/pin start grapple +5 maintain
Initiate 23
maintain 28 CMD 10 base +6 bab +9 dex
+10str +1 size+1 deflection
=37
enemy -2 penalty to break grapple
or escape artist (resinous skin)

Fly: 17 (7rank +9dex +3class -2L)
Perception 7 (+1rank+ 3class +3wis)
Linq Com -1 (+1rank -2int)
Saves Fort 12 Ref 15 Wil 6

****************************** BUFFED HUGE **********************
Animal Growth (5) 1 min/lvl

attack:19 (+6bab -2huge +14str+1 magic fang)
dmg +15
dmg 2d8 [GRAB] (talon) 4d6 (bite)
AC BUF 41 31 (unbuffed-3boarding) +3 dex (cats-ata-an gr) +4 enhancement (bark) +4 nat -1huge
str 39 dex 26 con 26 int 7 wis 17 cha 15
hp: 9*4,5+9*8 =112 5/piercing

Grapple breakdown BUFFED
CMB +6 bab +14 str +2size
bonus GRAB +4 innitiate/maintain
resinous +2 circumstance innitiate/maintain/pin
start grapple +5 maintain
Initiate 28
maintain 33

CMD 10 base +6 bab +8 dex
+14str +2 size+1 deflection
=41
enemy -2 penalty to break grapple
or escape artist (resinous skin)

Fly: 14 (7rank +8dex +3class -4Huge)
Perception 7 (+1rank+ 3class +3wis)
Linq Com -1 (+1rank -2int)

Saves Fort 14 Ref 14 Wil 6

********************* BUFFED MEDIUM **********************
Reduce animal (2) 1 hr/lev

attacks: 16 (+6bab -0 medium +9str+1 magic fang)
dmg 10 (+9 str +1 magic fang)
dmg d8 [GRAB] (talon) 2d6 (bite)
AC 43 31 (unbuffed-3 boarding) +5 dex (cats-atavism/red) +4 enhancement (bark) +2 nat +1 size L->M
str 29 dex 30 con 22 int 7 wis 17 cha 15
hp 94

Grapple breakdown
CMB +6 bab +9 str +0size
bonus GRAB +4 innitiate/maintain
resinous +2 circumstance innitiate/maintain/pin
start grapple +5 maintain
Initiate 21
maintain 26

CMD 10 base +6 bab +10 dex
+9str +0 size+1 deflection
=36
enemy -2 penalty to break grapple
or escape artist (resinous skin)

Fly: 20 (7rank +10dex +3class -0med)
Perception 7 (+1rank+ 3class +3wis)
Linq Com -1 (+1rank -2int)
Saves Fort 12 Ref 16 Wil 6


1.

Quote:
An eagle shaman who chooses an animal companion must select a bird (eagle).

So you should have an eagle and not a roc.

2. Why do you have boon companion? You already have full druid levels so the feat does not take you past being a level 10 druid for the purpose of your animal companion.

3. I only glanced over it but the numbers appear to be ok..The buffs are what is killing the NPC's. Animal Growth is really good. I was able to grapple bosses in CoT with Tiger animal companion.

4.

don't read this if you are playing unless you are the OP:
Many of the fights are inside. How are you using the huge form?


wraithstrike wrote:
1.
Quote:
An eagle shaman who chooses an animal companion must select a bird (eagle).

So you should have an eagle and not a roc.

2. Why do you have boon companion? You already have full druid levels so the feat does not take you past being a level 10 druid for the purpose of your animal companion.

3. I only glanced over it but the numbers appear to be ok..The buffs are what is killing the NPC's. Animal Growth is really good. I was able to grapple bosses in CoT with Tiger animal companion.

4. ** spoiler omitted **

1. Animal domain gets you to choose a companion, so i got to choose the Roc, cause i didnt like the 0'feet reach eagle.

2. Animal domains companions are -lvl, i took boon companion to get em up to date.

thx for your reply!


You did not reply to the spoiler.. :)


Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber; Starfinder Charter Superscriber

I still see the rules say that an Eagle Shaman must have an Eagle. A Roc is not a valid choice for you even with the Animal Domain. This is a case where a specific rule overrides a more general one.


Hendelbolaf wrote:
I still see the rules say that an Eagle Shaman must have an Eagle. A Roc is not a valid choice for you even with the Animal Domain. This is a case where a specific rule overrides a more general one.

Hendelbolaf he would have to choose the eagle if he chose the animal companion from he Shaman and that eagle would be at the normal druid progresion..

However he also has the option of choosing a domain instead.

The animal domain allows him to choose an animal from the druid list, but at druid level-3. However boon companion gives you virtual druid levels for the purpose of improving your animal companion. He basically took the hit to his animal companion levels with the animal domain, and then erased the penalties with a feat.


wraithstrike wrote:
You did not reply to the spoiler.. :)

Spoiler:

wraithstrike wrote:
Many of the fights are inside. How are you using the huge form?

Ah he's squeezing alot, penalties are not that rough.. and most of the housing Large creatures walk (tons of ogres/giants at the moment).. so 10'or more wide. Not much wing based flying though.I can stop animal growth whenever its needed and go further large or medium. It's really swiss army knife style of play

wraithstrike wrote:
The animal domain allows him to choose an animal from the druid list, but at druid level-3. However boon companion gives you virtual druid levels for the purpose of improving your animal companion. He basically took the hit to his animal companion levels with the animal domain, and then erased the penalties with a feat.

At first he just choose the Roc, but got nerfed after creation.. now at higher levels its actually better, extra spells versus 1 feat.


so the spell stacking & grapple calculations are correct?


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Went through your regular calculations, everything looks good there. Skimmed your buffed stats - Huge seems accurate. Atavism is simply a stupid spell. Whoever wrote it and didn't include *any* consideration for it stacking with other effects should be banned from writing crunch.

I would highly suggest you limit yourself to 2-3 buffs at a time. Cast some of those cat's graces and bull's strengths on your party members.

Still quite iffy on getting anything but an Eagle from the animal companion ability with an Eagle Shaman, regardless of picking the Animal Domain first. but that's not really causing the issue you were bringing up.

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