Why is the CL of a amulet of natural armor 5th when you only need to be third to make the +1 version, and CL 8th for a belt of giant STR when you could make the +2 version at 3rd?
i ask for the purpose of creation, i am 3rd and would like to make those items...but i don't think you can make things with a higher CL...or can you?
ok, but for items like Helm of comprehend language and read magic...there is a CL of 4th, while you only need 3rd to make it....so when creating it whats the caster lvel you factor into the cost?
ok, thanks
so, when creating items i would just use the lowest level i could be to possibly cast all the spells necessary?
Just to clarify: Anytime you see a phrase of "Caster Level" in the Requirements line then it has that as a prerequisite. The "CL" is not in the Requirements line and is not a prerequisite.
Regarding the CL of an item: It is whatever is listed regardless of your level. However, according to the Pearl of Power FAQ you can reduce the CL (for the purpose of making the item easier to craft) to the minimum required for the spell.
If the Caster Level is in the Requirements section you can still bypass it by adding +5 to the crafting DC.
- Gauss
gotcha, thank you very much
Cakeking,
When Creating any magic item it USUALLY benefits you to make it at the lowest possible CL. The reason stated that usually is the case is because of many other things that can happen.
1. The higher the CL of the item, the harder the DC of a dispel magic spell being successful against it.
2. Also, if the item in question is going to cast say the spell Fly, 3 times per day then the higher the caster level of the item the longer the Fly spell can last. Spell dependent Items will have a longer duration according to the caster level.
These are the two most common reasons why it is that you WANT to use a higher Caster Level.
If you stick to the lowest caster level possible, this will usually result in the item being obtained as cheaply as possible.
very true, i guess i will have to consider the DC and try to create at the highest possible level
Cakeking, just a note: items that use caster level to determine the effect of the item will probably increase in cost if you increase the CL. Check with your GM. Example: anything that replicates a spell and is not continuous.
- Gauss
scrolls is a good example of a higher CL being both good and bad. good for extra spell effects, but bad cause the price goes up and up.
well if we are going to mention scrolls...
You KNOW we HAVE to mention potions and wands too. :P
Well for potions the drinker is the caster and the target, so i think the CL of the brewer is irrelevant
correct me if im wrong
no, you can make a CL 5 potion of CLW that would heal 1d8+5.
For targetting and spell description, you are the caster/target, but for numerical effects the brewer determines the CL.
I dont remember if you can meta a potion, though.
@IejirIsk : Yes you can, but only if the meta makes the spell a 3rd level spell or less.
If you don't have the metamagic feat, you add +5 to the craft DC.