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[Bbauzh ap Aghauzh]

Guide v4.3, pg 25, Spellcasting Services, 1st Paragraph, last Sentence wrote:

Any spellcasting purchased using Prestige Points is cast at minimum caster level.

[Sarta]

Andrew Christian wrote:

Guide v4.3, pg 25, Spellcasting Services, 1st Paragraph, last Sentence wrote:

Any spellcasting purchased using Prestige Points is cast at minimum caster level.

As a result of this, if you ever need to clear an affliction such as Disease or Poison with a very high DC, it might be wiser to spring for a Heal. I know of at least one scenario with Disease DC's at the high tier which cannot be cleared by a 5th level caster casting Remove Disease.

[Iammars]

Will Johnson wrote:

Andrew Christian wrote:

Guide v4.3, pg 25, Spellcasting Services, 1st Paragraph, last Sentence wrote:

Any spellcasting purchased using Prestige Points is cast at minimum caster level.

As a result of this, if you ever need to clear an affliction such as Disease or Poison with a very high DC, it might be wiser to spring for a Heal. I know of at least one scenario with Disease DC's at the high tier which cannot be cleared by a 5th level caster casting Remove Disease.

Why couldn't you use gold then to buy a higher caster level spell? It seems the Guide only prohibits buying higher level versions with prestige.

[Sniggevert]

Yeah, spellcasting purchased through PP is minimum caster level. Spellcasting purchased by gold can be at whatever caster level you want, assuming a settlement of 5000 or more. You can't add metamagic feats to the spellcasting service, but changing caster level is not currently prohibited for gold transactions.

[Serum]

Joe M. wrote:

Andrew Christian wrote:

james maissen wrote:

nosig wrote:

james maissen wrote:

If PP were not used, then the caster could be higher level than normal.

I agree with all the above except the bolded part.

When PP are not used, then the normal rules for spell casting services apply.

You can get a 2nd level cleric to cast a cure light wounds spell on you for 1d8+2 for 20gp. Now why you'd do that rather than hire a 1st level cleric to cast two on you for that 20gp.

So if you wish to hire a 6th level cleric to cast remove curse, then you can do so. The restriction is only on PP spent for casting services.

-James

That isn't so. Spellcasting services follow the same minimum CL rule as potions and wands and scrolls.

Do you have a source for that claim? I'm not doubting you—it makes sense, and my VC has personally ruled this to be true —, but I looked pretty thoroughly, thought I did my due diligence, and couldn't find anything. So I'd appreciate a clear source just to have one. Thanks!

Andrew Christian wrote:

Guide v4.3, pg 25, Spellcasting Services, 1st Paragraph, last Sentence wrote:

Any spellcasting purchased using Prestige Points is cast at minimum caster level.

That's not exactly what I would call a source for limiting spellcasting services purchased with gold.

[TetsujinOni]

Based on the ruling for make whole, I believe that you are incorrect about the paid spellcasting with GP, Andrew.

I extrapolate from that you can buy remove disease and break enchantment at guaranteed-success caster levels for the appropriate gold cost (possibly very ow).

[kinevon]

Andrew Christian wrote:

Guide v4.3, pg 25, Spellcasting Services, 1st Paragraph, last Sentence wrote:

Any spellcasting purchased using Prestige Points is cast at minimum caster level.

Andrew, yet again, I think yuo have not fully read what you quoted in your own post.

I have bolded the part which limits caster level, and, as you can see from your own quote, it only limits caster level when the casting service is purchased with Prestige Points.

As mentioned by other posters, it has been mentioned by campaign management (Mark Moreland, IIRC) in relation to things like recommending spending gold for a remove disease at a higher caster level, as many diseases are not likely to be easily removed by a 5th level caster's cast.