A Fuzzy Friendly Rant


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kmal2t wrote:
"Ok, so my player wants to swat a fly, but I'm not sure how many hp to give it and what the AC is for it. How much does a flyswatter cost and can if he uses a newspaper do I follow the improvised weapon rule? What I do?"

You have angered the fly druid. He summons a swarm of his brethren on you.


To the OP: Paizo themselves solicits players to post Errata issues. Posting issues, and discussion to resolve vague rules interactions (that potentially could have a valid RAW resolution, even if it conflicts with RAI and thus may still need Errata, or may simply be borked and non-functional per RAW) is the natural consequence of that. If you have a problem with that, you should petition Paizo to stop requesting such feedback, much less feeding it by responding to it via Errata, FAQ, and messageboard posts addressing the issues.

I would agree with you when it comes to the posters who end up engaged in never ending harangues which basically come down to differing opinions of game design/balance, which conflicts with Paizo's own designers... But besides that there is a large amount of objective, constructive posting which is in fact validated by Paizo itself.


TOZ wrote:
kmal2t wrote:
"Ok, so my player wants to swat a fly, but I'm not sure how many hp to give it and what the AC is for it. How much does a flyswatter cost and can if he uses a newspaper do I follow the improvised weapon rule? What I do?"
You have angered the fly druid. He summons a swarm of his brethren on you.

How much does bug spray cost? Would that be considered a potion or an oil? What if I sweat is that going to disrupt my Bug Spray +1? I need Paizo to answer these questions!


Quandary wrote:

To the OP: Paizo themselves solicits players to post Errata issues. Posting issues, and discussion to resolve vague rules interactions (that potentially could have a valid RAW resolution, even if it conflicts with RAI and thus may still need Errata, or may simply be borked and non-functional per RAW) is the natural consequence of that. If you have a problem with that, you should petition Paizo to stop requesting such feedback, much less feeding it by responding to it via Errata, FAQ, and messageboard posts addressing the issues.

I would agree with you when it comes to the posters who end up engaged in never ending harangues which basically come down to differing opinions of game design/balance, which conflicts with Paizo's own designers... But besides that there is a large amount of objective, constructive posting which is in fact validated by Paizo itself.

Forgive if I came across as a champion quixotically tilting at players who wish to explore the nuances of an issue that has created some chaffing in different player's sensitive bikini areas. It is only those that are out simply to quibble for the enjoyment of trolling their way through their digital existence that cause me discomfort.

Personally I find no use to such threads, whether Paizo initiated or not, for the substance is hidden amongst the barbs and jibes, so I wear the +2 codpiece of "Just Houserule It!".

YMMV

p.s. I do not visit debates often enough, so please correct me if I am in error, but what I believe is the most often outcome is that someone poses a generally valid question, then a murder of posters (pod? flock? giggle?) wanders in to post solid suggestions/good-natured sarcasm, and most ideas are slowly lost in a steadily-rising quagmire of someone saying something inflammatory and people arguing against it. Like any conversation it is hard to ignore those screaming next to you, so the conversation slowly tapers out as the people with anything constructive to add wend their way to different ports to ply their collective trades.


My 2 sp are going to go to saying that 2.5 cps is seriously the most obnoxious number ever -.-...


I don't know how I missed this post until now. I love posts like this; I just make a big bowl of popcorn and watch the fireworks.

I must admit: I didn't read EVERY post. What Gigglesnort Hotel seemed to suggest in his OP though was that he didn't like thread-jackers. I've been guilty of it myself and it's a habit I've been trying to break, since I feel the same way Jinxy does.

This game, for me, has always been a bunch of people sitting around jawing and screwing off while also occasionally managing to advance the game slightly. I use rules that facilitate that; other rules I generally don't even acknowledge unless a rules lawyer quotes them at me. I'm probably the worst-informed GM around.

I have hope that no one judges the people at their table, on these boards, or anywhere. Everyone plays their own way. I don't however think this is an achievable reality since we humans subconsciously judge everyone all the time. So the expectation I settle for is something my mother taught me: Be Kind, or Be Quiet.

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