
onisius |
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Special: If you have the gliding wings racial trait, instead of the above abilities, your base speed increases to 30 feet.
if u do have the gliding wings racial trait does this give a base fly speed of 30 ft.
kobold base speed is already 30ft its obviously a miss print I want to know what it is supposed to say

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I wonder if it was somehow meant to reference the 20 foot Fly speed you gain from Draconic Paragon...

JustynThyme |
I wonder if it was somehow meant to reference the 20 foot Fly speed you gain from Draconic Paragon...
*blinks*
I never thought of that! I'm going to write my DM tomorrow. It actually makes perfect sense, too! Thanks, Ssalarn!
Craig Frankum |

No it doesn't. It's a feat that reference's an alternate racial trait. Draconic Paragon comes much later in the feat tree.
Draconic Glide
You possess draconic defenses and wings that allow you to glide.
Prerequisites: Draconic Aspect, kobold.
Benefit: You gain a +2 bonus against sleep and paralysis effects. You grow a pair of wings that you can use to fall and glide at a safe pace. You can make a DC 15 Fly check to fall safely from any height without taking falling damage, as if using feather fall. When falling safely, you may make an additional DC 15 Fly check to glide, moving 5 feet laterally for every 20 feet you fall.
Special: If you have the gliding wings racial trait, instead of the above abilities, your base speed increases to 30 feet.
Gliding Wings: Some kobolds are born with wings that, while too weak for actual flying, do allow them to fall at a very slow and safe pace. A kobold with wings can use them to glide. It can make a DC 15 Fly check to fall safely from any height without taking falling damage, as if using feather fall. When falling safely, it may make an additional DC 15 Fly check to glide, moving 5 feet laterally for every 20 feet it falls. This racial trait replaces crafty.
How does the Special modify the trait?

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No it doesn't. It's a feat that reference's an alternate racial trait. Draconic Paragon comes much later in the feat tree.
Draconic Glide
You possess draconic defenses and wings that allow you to glide.
Prerequisites: Draconic Aspect, kobold.
Benefit: You gain a +2 bonus against sleep and paralysis effects. You grow a pair of wings that you can use to fall and glide at a safe pace. You can make a DC 15 Fly check to fall safely from any height without taking falling damage, as if using feather fall. When falling safely, you may make an additional DC 15 Fly check to glide, moving 5 feet laterally for every 20 feet you fall.Special: If you have the gliding wings racial trait, instead of the above abilities, your base speed increases to 30 feet.
Gliding Wings: Some kobolds are born with wings that, while too weak for actual flying, do allow them to fall at a very slow and safe pace. A kobold with wings can use them to glide. It can make a DC 15 Fly check to fall safely from any height without taking falling damage, as if using feather fall. When falling safely, it may make an additional DC 15 Fly check to glide, moving 5 feet laterally for every 20 feet it falls. This racial trait replaces crafty.
How does the Special modify the trait?
Gliding Wings is probably supposed to be referenced in a couple of different feats. Draconic Paragon says:
Draconic Paragon"You can shrug off sleep and paralysis effects as well as any dragon, and your draconic aspects improve.
Prerequisites: Draconic Aspect, either Draconic Breath or Draconic Glide, character level 10th, kobold.
Benefit: You gain an additional +2 bonus against sleep and paralysis effects. You can use your breath weapon twice per day and your breath weapon damage increases to 4d6 points of energy damage. Your wings from the Draconic Glide feat grow stronger, granting you a fly speed of 20 feet (average maneuverability)."
My thought is that the only thing that makes sense is that the trait and feats were intended to continually stack together so that they all continue to provide some benefit to your character as you advance. It may be that some important verbage got taken out for spacing reasons in editing making this a little less clear, but the only thing that makes sense is that the improvement to speed is meant to affect the fly speed you gain from the combination of Draconic Glide and Draconic Paragon.
These were probably all actually very well crafted feats and traits that were all meant to stack together but lost a couple of important words here and there in editing when they were trying to bring the word count down to conserve page space.

JustynThyme |
Gliding Wings is probably supposed to be referenced in a couple of different feats. Draconic Paragon says:
Draconic Paragon
"You can shrug off sleep and paralysis effects as well as any dragon, and your draconic aspects improve.Prerequisites: Draconic Aspect, either Draconic Breath or Draconic Glide, character level 10th, kobold.
Benefit: You gain an additional +2 bonus against sleep and paralysis effects. You can use your breath weapon twice per day and your breath weapon damage increases to 4d6 points of energy damage. Your wings from the Draconic Glide feat grow stronger, granting you a fly speed of 20 feet (average maneuverability)."
My...
Also note that Draconic Glide isn't a hard prereq (either Draconic Breath or Draconic Glide), yet the feat description says that your wings from that feat get stronger.
That mistake alone suggests that the Special from Draconic GLide could refer to Draconic Paragon. Being born with wings, then investing in a feat to show the time and effort put into learning how to use them, should pay off at some point. It should pay off when you take the feat (my DM says my glide should improve to 5' lateral for every 15' fallen), but it should also pay off later, when you take Draconic Paragon. (My DM thinks a different person made the feats than made the base race, so the person making the feats just assumed a size small creature had a base move of 20. Thus the special should be changed t something that improves Gliding wings, which is why he says having both slightly improves the glide, even if it is only by 5'.)
Paizo customer service told me that they will only release errata if the first printing of ARG sells out fast enough to warrant a second printing. No second printing, no errata. I wish they'd at least FAQ this officially. :/