
Matrix Dragon |

Matrix, I think we could have 1 or 2 with weapons, sure. I'll make a note for my artists for when we get to that stage.
Yay! Though of course do whatever you think is best for the kickstarter. I was just recalling the sorts of lycanthrope minis I have had trouble finding in the past. :)

Christina Stiles Contributor |

My buddy, RPG Superstar Mike Welham has agreed to co-author the stretch goal for the Bite Me! The Gaming Guide to Dhampir! Please help make that happen.
I'm already talking with Eastern Front Studios about lycanthrope miniatures to accompany the book. I'll get some pictures posted on the kickstarter as soon as we have something on that!

Matrix Dragon |
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A weremantis? Now that's a were-type I've never heard of before!
*looks* Wow, that thing's freaky. And yea, the clothing and weapons on that one works well because it tells people that the thing was once human, hah XD
Just curious, are you planning on basing minis on the other two pictures on the kickstarter page as well?

Christina Stiles Contributor |

Possibly the wereraven, though I may get Rick to do another picture of that. It's from the SpirosBlaak book we did many, many years ago. Some of the other minis are yet to be determined, as the weresharks get to decide what kind of creatures they want to submit to the project.
Is there some miniature in particular you want with a weapon?
Btw, so far, I only have two weresharks to submit additional lycanthropes. There are more slots for those!

Christina Stiles Contributor |
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Ok, I have up a Bite Me Gaming Guides Page on FB for the project now.
Please share!
While you are at it, feel free to send a friend request to me on FB (I'm ChristinaStiles1). I'm on G+ and twitter as well (koboldminion7 on twitter).

Christina Stiles Contributor |

Kodyax, if you love SpirosBlaak, then you should definitely get in on this. We'll be using some OGC from there, and Steven will be putting some SB info in the book. Of course, you can play NG!!!!! Are ya kiddin' me??? :) Steven and I are all about the lycanthropes.
I've got a long list of cool people who will be in for different pieces of the project to credit on the KS tonight. I have certainly met a lot of great folks from working on the Open Design/Kobold Press projects, and many of them are joining me. Dawson Kriska, my co-author, in fact, won his first contract on the Journeys to the West project. I've known Dawson for several years through gaming and gaming cons, but he built up his writing chops on Kobold Press projects that use this open design method. It's a great way to work and learn, if you are interested in freelancing at any point. It's very fun, really.

Kodyax |

I do trust my furry brothers and sisters. I have seen so many WOW folks go gaga over the worgen, now here's a way to translate some of that into a pen and paper format. Not every werewolf is a slavering psychopath. There are some of us who like playing the heroic monster, the beast that saves the humans despite being despised by the very people he saves.

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To each their own, it sounds like someone is looking askance that this could be something of use to the furry community, a way for us to included rather than excluded.
If it's just fluff changes you ask for, there's nothing preventing you from making up your own to bring it more in line with your preferences.
As it is, I'd prefer the product not to deviate too much from what has been etablished on lycantropes before.
Endzeitgeist |

If that's interesting for anyone: I just submitted a draft to Christina that allows you to _play_ lycanthropes (even good and noble ones) while still emphasizing that there's a seductive allure of stooping to savagery inherent in the curse - after all, they are not just any race of anthropomorphs, they are lycanthropes.

Matrix Dragon |

If that's interesting for anyone: I just submitted a draft to Christina that allows you to _play_ lycanthropes (even good and noble ones) while still emphasizing that there's a seductive allure of stooping to savagery inherent in the curse - after all, they are not just any race of anthropomorphs, they are lycanthropes.
To me, this is the ideal way to represent lycanthropes in an rpg since you know there are always going to be people who want to play 'good' lycanthropes, but you still need to show that savagery is an inherent part of their nature.

Amaranthine Witch |

And how exactly would you go about making a "furry propaganda" product?
This book is about lycanthropes. Are they humanoid? Most of the time. Do they have fur? Most of them. Seeing this, I'd say that no matter what, it should be of interest to a furry, without substracting from anyone's fun. Kodyax was kind enough to spread the word, and you seemed unnecesarily hostile.
That said, this book is certainly interesting, and I'll see if I can come up with something to pledge.

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And how exactly would you go about making a "furry propaganda" product?
This book is about lycanthropes. Are they humanoid? Most of the time. Do they have fur? Most of them. Seeing this, I'd say that no matter what, it should be of interest to a furry, without substracting from anyone's fun. Kodyax was kind enough to spread the word, and you seemed unnecesarily hostile.
That said, this book is certainly interesting, and I'll see if I can come up with something to pledge.
It was mostly this:
I do trust my furry brothers and sisters. I have seen so many WOW folks go gaga over the worgen, now here's a way to translate some of that into a pen and paper format. Not every werewolf is a slavering psychopath. There are some of us who like playing the heroic monster, the beast that saves the humans despite being despised by the very people he saves.
In my opinion, werewolves should be dark heroes at best, giving the humans a very good reason to fear and despise them. They are similar to vampires in that aspect. And I'd also be rather annoyed if a PFRPG book about vampires contained some kind of friendly vampire that glitters in sunlight.
I think the alignment restrictions of lycantropes offer interesting options, like a CE orc that was bitten by a werebear and has to commit good deeds by moonlight without remembering anything.And I'd also be fine with a book containing characters who are furries, druids or beast totem barbarians might be a good fit.

Oceanshieldwolf |

Just under $400 to go to reach funding!!! If you want to support some fantastic PF were-creature and lycanthrope action head over to the Bite Me! The Gaming guide to Lycanthropes kickstarter.

MaverickWolf |

In my opinion, werewolves should be dark heroes at best, giving the humans a very good reason to fear and despise them. They are similar to vampires in that aspect. And I'd also be rather annoyed if a PFRPG book about vampires contained some kind of friendly vampire that glitters in sunlight.
I think the alignment restrictions of lycantropes offer interesting options, like a CE orc that was bitten by a werebear and has to commit good deeds by moonlight without remembering anything.
And I'd also be fine with a book containing characters who are furries, druids or beast totem barbarians might be a good fit.
That is very, very much your opinion. Frankly, the alignment stuff on lycanthropes piss me off, especially considering the supposed link said alignments are supposed to have to their animal origins. In what world exactly are any creatures with a structured pack chaotic (referring to werewolves in particular, of course)? There is no reason whatsoever for the inherent evilness in most lycanthropes. Continuing with werewolves, wolves do not attack humans unless starving. Survival instinct and all that. They know better. So I'd love for options that tell those alignment restrictions to screw off, without the fluff trying to shove down my throat that it's 'how it's supposed to be'. And for the record, I am in no way a furry. And I still think it's BS.

+5 Toaster |

Jadeite wrote:That is very, very much your opinion. Frankly, the alignment stuff on lycanthropes piss me off, especially considering the supposed link said alignments are supposed to have to their animal origins. In what world exactly are any creatures with a structured pack chaotic (referring to werewolves in particular, of course)? There is no reason whatsoever for the inherent evilness in most lycanthropes. Continuing with werewolves, wolves do not attack humans unless starving. Survival instinct and all that. They know better. So I'd love for options that tell those alignment restrictions to screw off, without the fluff trying to shove down my throat that it's 'how it's supposed to be'. And for the record, I am in no way a furry. And I still think it's BS.In my opinion, werewolves should be dark heroes at best, giving the humans a very good reason to fear and despise them. They are similar to vampires in that aspect. And I'd also be rather annoyed if a PFRPG book about vampires contained some kind of friendly vampire that glitters in sunlight.
I think the alignment restrictions of lycantropes offer interesting options, like a CE orc that was bitten by a werebear and has to commit good deeds by moonlight without remembering anything.
And I'd also be fine with a book containing characters who are furries, druids or beast totem barbarians might be a good fit.
hear hear!