[Misfit Studios] Bite Me! The Gaming Guide to Lycanthropes (upcoming kickstarter)


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Jadeite, thank you! Matrix, I think we could have 1 or 2 with weapons, sure. I'll make a note for my artists for when we get to that stage.


Christina Stiles wrote:
Matrix, I think we could have 1 or 2 with weapons, sure. I'll make a note for my artists for when we get to that stage.

Yay! Though of course do whatever you think is best for the kickstarter. I was just recalling the sorts of lycanthrope minis I have had trouble finding in the past. :)

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I like the idea, actually, Matrix, so I'll go with it. Of course, we have to get there first! Help spread the word, please.

We are a third of the way there! Very happy to see that. :)

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My buddy, RPG Superstar Mike Welham has agreed to co-author the stretch goal for the Bite Me! The Gaming Guide to Dhampir! Please help make that happen.

I'm already talking with Eastern Front Studios about lycanthrope miniatures to accompany the book. I'll get some pictures posted on the kickstarter as soon as we have something on that!

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Matrix, there's a Rick Hershey pic on the kickstarter page now of a weremantis (a vermen) with a dagger. See if that suits ya. :) One of the weresharks suggested this was the creature he wanted to writeup.

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Louis Porter, Jr. to add in a lycanthropes in NeoExodus writeup, as well!


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We're just waiting for our tax return, and we're in!

I want this soooo much. ;)


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A weremantis? Now that's a were-type I've never heard of before!

*looks* Wow, that thing's freaky. And yea, the clothing and weapons on that one works well because it tells people that the thing was once human, hah XD

Just curious, are you planning on basing minis on the other two pictures on the kickstarter page as well?

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Possibly the wereraven, though I may get Rick to do another picture of that. It's from the SpirosBlaak book we did many, many years ago. Some of the other minis are yet to be determined, as the weresharks get to decide what kind of creatures they want to submit to the project.

Is there some miniature in particular you want with a weapon?

Btw, so far, I only have two weresharks to submit additional lycanthropes. There are more slots for those!

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Spiral Ninja, that sounds good! Thanks.

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RAWRRRRRRRR !

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Really looking forward to illustrating some of these!!!

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Ok, I have up a Bite Me Gaming Guides Page on FB for the project now.

Please share!

While you are at it, feel free to send a friend request to me on FB (I'm ChristinaStiles1). I'm on G+ and twitter as well (koboldminion7 on twitter).

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Owen Stephens is on board for an archetype!

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I've added a publisher ad piece for $100 for pdf/print versions of the book.


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Glad to see you've made it to halfway already! Keep up the good work Christina! (and Dawson et al!!!)

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You not joining us, Morgan?

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Latest news: Jim Groves, frequent Paizo freelancer, will be contributing to the book. Yay, Jim!


I actually have print copies of most of the Spiros Black material. I am tempted to get in on this. I do hope this means my long time hope of playing a Neutral Good werewolf or werebear ranger will be able to be realized.


We're in. $150 level under my husband's name.

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Kodyax, if you love SpirosBlaak, then you should definitely get in on this. We'll be using some OGC from there, and Steven will be putting some SB info in the book. Of course, you can play NG!!!!! Are ya kiddin' me??? :) Steven and I are all about the lycanthropes.

I've got a long list of cool people who will be in for different pieces of the project to credit on the KS tonight. I have certainly met a lot of great folks from working on the Open Design/Kobold Press projects, and many of them are joining me. Dawson Kriska, my co-author, in fact, won his first contract on the Journeys to the West project. I've known Dawson for several years through gaming and gaming cons, but he built up his writing chops on Kobold Press projects that use this open design method. It's a great way to work and learn, if you are interested in freelancing at any point. It's very fun, really.

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Spiral Ninja, that is awesome! Thank you very much! I look forward to working with ya!


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Well, I'm busy - seems like I'll also be contributing my nasty little ideas for lycanthropes. :)

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Yep, END is working on some very cool ideas!

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Btw, Liz Courts is joining us!!!! With me, Crystal, and Liz, us ladies are REPRESENTING!

And I forgot to add that Nick Milasich and Ted Reed from various Kobold products are on this, as well.


Looks like things are ripping it up around here!!!! Excellent!!!

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I am adding in the weremantis miniature to the $6000 goal. Those pledging $75+ dollars will receive that.


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Just bumping the link again:

Bite Me - the gaming guide to lycanthropes


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I'm in at my icon level. I just did a blog on two furry art sites I post stories to promoting this and I liked the project on Facebook. Let's just say, getting up to that dead tree edition is a priority for me.


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Kodyax, we gotta make it happen, so please spread the word everywhere you think there might be fans.


Tracy, I doing the best I can. I am getting the word out to my fellow furs. Believe me when I say I want this to work. I want a print copy when we hit that stretch goal no matter how long and nerve wracking it may be.

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It might be working,Kodyax! We are at 82%!


I do trust my furry brothers and sisters. I have seen so many WOW folks go gaga over the worgen, now here's a way to translate some of that into a pen and paper format. Not every werewolf is a slavering psychopath. There are some of us who like playing the heroic monster, the beast that saves the humans despite being despised by the very people he saves.

Dark Archive

Sorry, but if this product changes to much into 'furry propaganda', I'd have to drop out. While I agree that not every lycantrope has to be evil, those those that aren't should be tortured individuals, fighting against their inner beast to remain in control like some fluffy Drizz'ts.


To each their own, it sounds like someone is looking askance that this could be something of use to the furry community, a way for us to included rather than excluded.

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Kodyax wrote:
To each their own, it sounds like someone is looking askance that this could be something of use to the furry community, a way for us to included rather than excluded.

If it's just fluff changes you ask for, there's nothing preventing you from making up your own to bring it more in line with your preferences.

As it is, I'd prefer the product not to deviate too much from what has been etablished on lycantropes before.

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Jadeite, I'm not writing the book to target the furry market; however, if that group finds the book useful, then so be it. It's a book geared toward standard PF with players able to play lycanthropes. Its focus has not changed.


If that's interesting for anyone: I just submitted a draft to Christina that allows you to _play_ lycanthropes (even good and noble ones) while still emphasizing that there's a seductive allure of stooping to savagery inherent in the curse - after all, they are not just any race of anthropomorphs, they are lycanthropes.

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Christina Stiles wrote:
Jadeite, I'm not writing the book to target the furry market; however, if that group finds the book useful, then so be it. It's a book geared toward standard PF with players able to play lycanthropes. Its focus has not changed.

That's good to hear!


Endzeitgeist wrote:

If that's interesting for anyone: I just submitted a draft to Christina that allows you to _play_ lycanthropes (even good and noble ones) while still emphasizing that there's a seductive allure of stooping to savagery inherent in the curse - after all, they are not just any race of anthropomorphs, they are lycanthropes.

To me, this is the ideal way to represent lycanthropes in an rpg since you know there are always going to be people who want to play 'good' lycanthropes, but you still need to show that savagery is an inherent part of their nature.

Dark Archive

That's good to hear. I have no problems with furries making use of the book, I just don't want a pandering to them (especially as there are products like Fursona that do so).


And how exactly would you go about making a "furry propaganda" product?

This book is about lycanthropes. Are they humanoid? Most of the time. Do they have fur? Most of them. Seeing this, I'd say that no matter what, it should be of interest to a furry, without substracting from anyone's fun. Kodyax was kind enough to spread the word, and you seemed unnecesarily hostile.

That said, this book is certainly interesting, and I'll see if I can come up with something to pledge.

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Amaranthine Witch wrote:

And how exactly would you go about making a "furry propaganda" product?

This book is about lycanthropes. Are they humanoid? Most of the time. Do they have fur? Most of them. Seeing this, I'd say that no matter what, it should be of interest to a furry, without substracting from anyone's fun. Kodyax was kind enough to spread the word, and you seemed unnecesarily hostile.

That said, this book is certainly interesting, and I'll see if I can come up with something to pledge.

It was mostly this:

Kodyax wrote:
I do trust my furry brothers and sisters. I have seen so many WOW folks go gaga over the worgen, now here's a way to translate some of that into a pen and paper format. Not every werewolf is a slavering psychopath. There are some of us who like playing the heroic monster, the beast that saves the humans despite being despised by the very people he saves.

In my opinion, werewolves should be dark heroes at best, giving the humans a very good reason to fear and despise them. They are similar to vampires in that aspect. And I'd also be rather annoyed if a PFRPG book about vampires contained some kind of friendly vampire that glitters in sunlight.

I think the alignment restrictions of lycantropes offer interesting options, like a CE orc that was bitten by a werebear and has to commit good deeds by moonlight without remembering anything.
And I'd also be fine with a book containing characters who are furries, druids or beast totem barbarians might be a good fit.

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Hey! I just checked and it looks like the goal is in sight :)

Stay on target .... almost there ... almost there ....

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85% there, Marc!

Jadeite, we'll provide the toolkit; GMs can change anything that doesn't suit their campaigns. That's my motto! :)

And Thilo has turned in some...interesting...text. Bwah ha ha.


Just under $400 to go to reach funding!!! If you want to support some fantastic PF were-creature and lycanthrope action head over to the Bite Me! The Gaming guide to Lycanthropes kickstarter.

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94% there!


Less than $280 to reach funding! Let's go were-clan!


Jadeite wrote:

In my opinion, werewolves should be dark heroes at best, giving the humans a very good reason to fear and despise them. They are similar to vampires in that aspect. And I'd also be rather annoyed if a PFRPG book about vampires contained some kind of friendly vampire that glitters in sunlight.

I think the alignment restrictions of lycantropes offer interesting options, like a CE orc that was bitten by a werebear and has to commit good deeds by moonlight without remembering anything.
And I'd also be fine with a book containing characters who are furries, druids or beast totem barbarians might be a good fit.

That is very, very much your opinion. Frankly, the alignment stuff on lycanthropes piss me off, especially considering the supposed link said alignments are supposed to have to their animal origins. In what world exactly are any creatures with a structured pack chaotic (referring to werewolves in particular, of course)? There is no reason whatsoever for the inherent evilness in most lycanthropes. Continuing with werewolves, wolves do not attack humans unless starving. Survival instinct and all that. They know better. So I'd love for options that tell those alignment restrictions to screw off, without the fluff trying to shove down my throat that it's 'how it's supposed to be'. And for the record, I am in no way a furry. And I still think it's BS.


MaverickWolf wrote:
Jadeite wrote:

In my opinion, werewolves should be dark heroes at best, giving the humans a very good reason to fear and despise them. They are similar to vampires in that aspect. And I'd also be rather annoyed if a PFRPG book about vampires contained some kind of friendly vampire that glitters in sunlight.

I think the alignment restrictions of lycantropes offer interesting options, like a CE orc that was bitten by a werebear and has to commit good deeds by moonlight without remembering anything.
And I'd also be fine with a book containing characters who are furries, druids or beast totem barbarians might be a good fit.
That is very, very much your opinion. Frankly, the alignment stuff on lycanthropes piss me off, especially considering the supposed link said alignments are supposed to have to their animal origins. In what world exactly are any creatures with a structured pack chaotic (referring to werewolves in particular, of course)? There is no reason whatsoever for the inherent evilness in most lycanthropes. Continuing with werewolves, wolves do not attack humans unless starving. Survival instinct and all that. They know better. So I'd love for options that tell those alignment restrictions to screw off, without the fluff trying to shove down my throat that it's 'how it's supposed to be'. And for the record, I am in no way a furry. And I still think it's BS.

hear hear!

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