One odd quirk: the staff magus archetype recommends the arcana that gives a shield bonus, but the archetype itself grants you a shield bonus eventually. Thought that was an odd anti-synergy.
And no note that would allow them to stack? That *is* odd...
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Wyroot is an issue, but not a class issue.
It belongs in the same bin as Blood Money and the Staff of Wishes. A means to render a limited resource unlimited.
Assuming you follow the RAW that only Heighten Spell increases a spell's level wrt Spell Recall, then I agree.
If you subscribe to the interpretation that you must pay for the spell slot rather than the spell level wrt Spell Recall, wyroot seems almost a necessity to make the magus viable. :(
Once you start house ruling, where do you stop?
If I was going to house rule Spell Recall, I would also be house ruling Wyroot.
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Wyroot is an issue, but not a class issue.
It belongs in the same bin as Blood Money and the Staff of Wishes. A means to render a limited resource unlimited.
It work only for two classes, so it is a class issue as it change a class feature.
The Life drinker ability of the black blade is like the Greater Spell Access ability: a potentially cool ability that come to late to be really useful.
After you have played for 18 levels without them you have already taken measures to live without them, buying/crafting enough pearls of power to cover your needs, learning the wizard spells that were indispensable of getting scrolls, wands and miscellaneous items to simulate the spells or getting friend with the relevant abilities.
The wyroot fail in the opposite direction. Too easy and too early.
There is a cheese maneuver that work without any question about coup de grace and carrying around a bag of rats.
Get a homunculus and a a wyroot club. when you need arcane points or ki point start beating the homunculus, doing non lethal damage. As he is a construct he is immune to it, but you still get your criticals and your arcana or ki points.
Your arcana or ki pool will be always full (not the same thing as having unlimited points as you can't recharge during a fight,but very close).
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It work only for two classes, so it is a class issue as it change a class feature.Wyroot is an issue, but not a class issue.
It belongs in the same bin as Blood Money and the Staff of Wishes. A means to render a limited resource unlimited.
Wyroot is not a change to a class feature. Arcane and Ki pools are worded exactly as they were before. Wryroot is an itemization problem.
Remove wyroot from the game, which PFS did, and your complaints about the entire class go away.
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It work only for two classes, so it is a class issue as it change a class feature.Wyroot is an issue, but not a class issue.
It belongs in the same bin as Blood Money and the Staff of Wishes. A means to render a limited resource unlimited.
Wyroot is not a change to a class feature. Arcane and Ki pools are worded exactly as they were before. Wryroot is an itemization problem.
Remove wyroot from the game, which PFS did, and your complaints about the entire class go away.
Remove wyroot from the game, which PFS did, and one specific complaint about the class go away.
Correct version.
You can either say 'wyrooting rats works and because of that Life Drinker is only worth 1k+the cost of a crate of rats' or you can say 'magi need to conserve their arcane pool points so that they can make them last throughout the adventuring day, and that is especially hard for the bladebound magus since he has fewer arcane points' - but you can't say both since one (trivially easy infinite pool points) invalidates the other (pool points are a scarce resource). Isn't that fairly obvious?
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Remove wyroot from the game, which PFS did, and one specific complaint about the class go away.
Correct version.
Since your entire complaint was based on excessive DPR, something the magus can sustain for only a few rounds/day I would say you need to come up with another specific complaint.
A general, "I have other unspecified issues" won't work.
wyroot is a Paizo item? That is way powerful for a scimitar magus. They crit all the time. That is powerful.
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wyroot is a Paizo item? That is way powerful for a scimitar magus. They crit all the time. That is powerful.
It is wood, it is hard to make a wooden scimitar.
Url=http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/advancedRaceGuide/coreRaces/elves.ht ml#_wyroot]Wyroot[/url]It is one of those things that seem nice into a vacuum but are very broken when used in game.
Limp lash is another perfect example. 2 rounds and any dragon is paralyzed. With a 2nd level spell.
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Remove wyroot from the game, which PFS did, and one specific complaint about the class go away.
Correct version.
Since your entire complaint was based on excessive DPR, something the magus can sustain for only a few rounds/day I would say you need to come up with another specific complaint.
A general, "I have other unspecified issues" won't work.
What complain about excessive DPR?
Re-read my posts, please. You are confusing me with some other guy.If you feel that I am complaining about DPR cite the relevant post integrally and we will see.
And seeing the number of posts I have made in this thread and the other about the magus if you think I have spoken only of excessive DPR thanks to wyroot you have missed a lot of posts.
wyroot is a Paizo item? That is way powerful for a scimitar magus. They crit all the time. That is powerful.
It is indeed a paizo item, it was published in the Advanced Race Guide.
It is wood, it is hard to make a wooden scimitar.
It is however quite easy to make a scimitar with a wooden haft. The entire weapon does not have to be made of wyroot for it to function.
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wyroot is a Paizo item? That is way powerful for a scimitar magus. They crit all the time. That is powerful.It is indeed a paizo item, it was published in the Advanced Race Guide.
It is wood, it is hard to make a wooden scimitar.It is however quite easy to make a scimitar with a wooden haft. The entire weapon does not have to be made of wyroot for it to function.
While haft can be used as a synonymous of hilt generally it is used for weapon with a long handle, like a battleaxe, a polearm, a spear or a similar item.
"Wyroot can be used to construct any melee weapon made entirely of wood or a melee weapon with a wooden haft."
Saying that haft in that phrase mean hilt is stretching it.
And, BTW, using your logic:
You have spoken about using wyroot in that post, you can't argue against it any more.
While haft can be used as a synonymous of hilt generally it is used for weapon with a long handle, like a battleaxe, a polearm, a spear or a similar item.
"Wyroot can be used to construct any melee weapon made entirely of wood or a melee weapon with a wooden haft."
Saying that haft in that phrase mean hilt is stretching it.
According to dictionary.com, the Oxford dictionary, and pretty much any other dictionary I'd use for reference in the english language, 'haft' translates to 'handle'. Both Dictionary.com and the Oxford dictionary specifically names a 'knife' as an example of a weapon with a haft.
I believe the word you're thinking of is shaft, which would accurately describe the handle of a long weapon such as a battleaxe, a polearm, and a spear.
And, BTW, using your logic:
You have spoken about using wyroot in that post, you can't argue against it any more.
Actually, I pointed out that you were mistaken in stating that wyroot only works with an item that's made out of wood - that does not mean I believe the material itself is either balanced or imbalanced.
Personally I do allow wyroot in my games, though with some fairly simple house rules and players that I trust not to dive into the deep end of the cheese fondue pot. However, I I actually stated that I would, for the sake of the discussion, agree with your interpretation of wyroot and rats.
You are, of course, free to retract that interpretation at any time :)