Weird Race Lineup: Good or Bad?


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should bills maybe get some weapon proficiencies and a slightly bigger natural armor to balance against shirego burrow?


I'd think so. Just an extra +1 NA and weapon proficiency in any "digging" weapon (Heavy Pick and such) or summat.

Or since they seem very Roman-esque to me, maybe proficiency in Gladius and Falchion (yeah not really a Roman weapon but whatever) and Javelins.

Also, tragic psychic worms sound cool.


Rynjin wrote:

I'd think so. Just an extra +1 NA and weapon proficiency in any "digging" weapon (Heavy Pick and such) or summat.

Or since they seem very Roman-esque to me, maybe proficiency in Gladius and Falchion (yeah not really a Roman weapon but whatever) and Javelins.

Also, tragic psychic worms sound cool.

that works, now how about some skill bonus traits.

huh weird thought how about an acid elemental assault and resistance. functionally it would be a defense mechanism for bils and burrowing method for shirego.


Rynjin wrote:

I'd think so. Just an extra +1 NA and weapon proficiency in any "digging" weapon (Heavy Pick and such) or summat.

Or since they seem very Roman-esque to me, maybe proficiency in Gladius and Falchion (yeah not really a Roman weapon but whatever) and Javelins.

Also, tragic psychic worms sound cool.

Yeah, but now I feel conflicted: dwelling on it, making the Pnubiez gestal creatures sounds awesome. Opinions?


OmNomNid wrote:
Rynjin wrote:

I'd think so. Just an extra +1 NA and weapon proficiency in any "digging" weapon (Heavy Pick and such) or summat.

Or since they seem very Roman-esque to me, maybe proficiency in Gladius and Falchion (yeah not really a Roman weapon but whatever) and Javelins.

Also, tragic psychic worms sound cool.

Yeah, but now I feel conflicted: dwelling on it, making the Pnubiez gestal creatures sounds awesome. Opinions?

while awesome, as it would be race based worm that walks, i would be afraid that given it the traits to do it justice would be a little to strong as a starter race.


+5 Toaster wrote:
OmNomNid wrote:
Rynjin wrote:

I'd think so. Just an extra +1 NA and weapon proficiency in any "digging" weapon (Heavy Pick and such) or summat.

Or since they seem very Roman-esque to me, maybe proficiency in Gladius and Falchion (yeah not really a Roman weapon but whatever) and Javelins.

Also, tragic psychic worms sound cool.

Yeah, but now I feel conflicted: dwelling on it, making the Pnubiez gestal creatures sounds awesome. Opinions?
while awesome, as it would be race based worm that walks, i would be afraid that given it the traits to do it justice would be a little to strong as a starter race.

Noted. Still, I'll put the idea on the back burner. Let's get to writing the Bil up.


Actually, just give them Fast Healing.

Make all the races a bit more powerful say around 15RP each.


Azaelas Fayth wrote:

Actually, just give them Fast Healing.

Make all the races a bit more powerful say around 15RP each.

I might just do 15.

PS: um, how should the Shirego be classified? I imagine them as something akin to a caterpillar/graboid, so their not exactly humanoid...


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id like monstrous humanoid personally, frankly i think it is an under appreciated type.


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I actually imagined them as being a Gestalt of worms that when it burrowed would appear to be come a mass of worms that would quickly create a hole to burrow in.


+5 Toaster wrote:
id like monstrous humanoid personally, frankly i think it is an under appreciated type.

True


Azaelas Fayth wrote:
I actually imagined them as being a Gestalt of worms that when it burrowed would appear to be come a mass of worms that would quickly create a hole to burrow in.

we could use that to explain the "gender" diversity. basically new pnebiez form the gender needed by the hive at the time.


Or they could be Hermaphroditic then take on Genders as needed.

Sort of like a Real-Life Worm Species that live in a Hive like setup.


Azaelas Fayth wrote:

Or they could be Hermaphroditic then take on Genders as needed.

Sort of like a Real-Life Worm Species that live in a Hive like setup.

sounds cool but i just know one of my players will want the to use that as an excuse to to change genders (and therefore abilities) on the fly.


I am meaning the individual reproductive genders not the Gestalt Gender...

Maybe we should separate it into a Gestalt Role and a Gender.


Okay, I have finished the Bil. Tell me what you think, because honestly I found it to be a pain. The Race Build System doesn't work well for Pnubiez I think.

Bil

Type: Humanoid (Pnubiez) 0 RP

Size: Medium 0 RP

Speed: Normal 0 RP

Ability: Specialized- +2 Str, +2 Con, -2 Int 1 RP

Languages: Standard (Pnubi and Common. Can Choose Urebest, Draconic, Terran, Strix, Aklo, and Pechy) 0 RP

Racial Traits

Defense:
-Natural Armor 2 RP
-Lifebound 2 RP

Feat/Skill:
-Scavenger 2 RP

Offensive:
-Ferocity 4 RP
-Wyrmscourged 3 RP

Other/Senses/Weakness:
-Underdeveloped Sight[New!] 2 RP

Total: 16 RP

Underdeveloped Sight
-Some creatures have poor, flimsy eyesight. They receive a-2 to Perception tests, but a +4 bonus to saves against gaze effects, and spells that must be seen.


I would say these 2 fit the need for All-Round Vision.

Underdeveloped Sight should be 1RP total.


wyrmscourged?


+5 Toaster wrote:
wyrmscourged?

I hate you... Why a Dominic Deegan Level Pun...


Azaelas Fayth wrote:
+5 Toaster wrote:
wyrmscourged?
I hate you... Why a Dominic Deegan Level Pun...

i think he is trying to worm his way into our heads.


Azaelas Fayth wrote:

I would say these 2 fit the need for All-Round Vision.

Underdeveloped Sight should be 1RP total.

This was my first time really using the race builder, and as you can see I kinda suck with it. I think I will make the races, and then let you guys judge and build them with the Builder.


OmNomNid wrote:
Azaelas Fayth wrote:

I would say these 2 fit the need for All-Round Vision.

Underdeveloped Sight should be 1RP total.

This was my first time really using the race builder, and as you can see I kinda suck with it. I think I will make the races, and then let you guys judge and build them with the Builder.

fine with me you do the vision, we'll do the grunt work.

edit: whoops that was rude, didn't mean to assume for you azealas


+5 Toaster wrote:
Azaelas Fayth wrote:
+5 Toaster wrote:
wyrmscourged?
I hate you... Why a Dominic Deegan Level Pun...
i think he is trying to worm his way into our heads.

Funny but No! Actually in the setting the Pnubiez are lorded over by Wyvaran lords. Years of resistance fighting has left Pnubiez, Bil especially, expert dragon slayers


+5 Toaster wrote:
OmNomNid wrote:
Azaelas Fayth wrote:

I would say these 2 fit the need for All-Round Vision.

Underdeveloped Sight should be 1RP total.

This was my first time really using the race builder, and as you can see I kinda suck with it. I think I will make the races, and then let you guys judge and build them with the Builder.
fine with me you do the vision, we'll do the grunt work.

I LOVE SLAVE LABOR!


could they do without lifebound or scavenger? i would reflavor orc ferocity and use it instead of regular. second the vote for all around vision, azealas/OmNom what say you?


+5 Toaster wrote:
could they do without lifebound or scavenger? i would reflavor orc ferocity and use it instead of regular. second the vote for all around vision, azealas/OmNom what say you?

Make it so Number One.


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i call data ;)
Bil

Type: Humanoid (Pnubiez) 0 RP

Size: Medium 0 RP

Speed: Normal 0 RP

Ability: Specialized- +2 Str, +2 Con, -2 Int 1 RP

Languages: Standard (Pnubi and Common. Can Choose Urebest, Draconic, Terran, Strix, Aklo, and Pechy) 0 RP

Racial Traits

Defense:
-Natural Armor 2 RP
-Improved Natural Armor 1RP

Offensive:
-Warriors ferocity 2RP
-Wyrmscourged 3 RP
-Weapon Familiarity (war pick, ?)1 RP

Other/Senses/Weakness:
-Underdeveloped Sight[New!] 1 RP
-All Around Vision 4 RP
total= 15 RP
Hows it look?
edit: changed to include previously mentioned ideas


I like it.


anything besides burrow you want in particular? i actually had a thought about allowing them to count as one size larger for determining weight carrying limits. I would call it supportive frame.
edit: for shirego i mean.


That's the main thing on my end.


shirego

Type: Humanoid (Pnubiez) 0 RP

Size: Medium 0 RP

Speed: Normal 0 RP

Ability: Standard- +2 dex, +2 wis, -2 Int 0 RP

Languages: Standard (Pnubi and Common. Can Choose Urebest, Draconic, Terran, Strix, Aklo, and Pechy) 0 RP

Racial Traits

Defense:
-Natural Armor 2 RP
-Improved Natural Armor 1 RP

Feat/Skill:
-Scavenger 2 RP

Offensive:
-Hatred (dragons)1 RP

Other/Senses/Weakness:
-Underdeveloped Sight[New!] 1 RP
-Burrow 3 RP
-Sturdy Frame 1RP
-All Around Vision 4RP
total=15
note also edited bils above


+5 Toaster wrote:

shirego

Type: Humanoid (Pnubiez) 0 RP

Size: Medium 0 RP

Speed: Normal 0 RP

Ability: Standard- +2 dex, +2 wis, -2 Int 0 RP

Languages: Standard (Pnubi and Common. Can Choose Urebest, Draconic, Terran, Strix, Aklo, and Pechy) 0 RP

Racial Traits

Defense:
-Natural Armor 2 RP
-Improved Natural Armor 1 RP

Feat/Skill:
-Scavenger 2 RP

Offensive:
-Hatred (dragons)1 RP

Other/Senses/Weakness:
-Underdeveloped Sight[New!] 1 RP
-Burrow 3 RP
-Sturdy Frame 1RP
-All Around Vision 4RP
total=15
note also edited bils above

I love it. The only thing I can add is that I didn't picture the Shirego as humanoid; how do you imagine them?


well again i like monstrous humanoid, and if you deduct darkvision it's a 1RP change.


I hear ya


alright it's 3:30 am where i am and i have to work in 5 hours so it's gotta be bedtime. plan out some more race fluff for me will ya! :)
P.S. when the races are done i would love to start on racial feats, they happen to be a hobby of mine. ;)


Just got one comment: Heavy Pick & Mattock seem like the best weapons for these guys.


Bil

Type: Monstrous Humanoid 1 RP

Size: Medium 0 RP

Speed: Normal 0 RP

Ability: Specialized- +2 Str, +2 Con, -2 Int 1 RP

Languages: Standard (Pnubi and Common. Can Choose Urebest, Draconic, Terran, Strix, Aklo, and Pechy) 0 RP

Racial Traits

Defense:
-Natural Armor 2 RP
-Improved Natural Armor 1RP

Offensive:
-Warriors ferocity 2RP
-Wyrmscourged 3 RP
-Weapon Familiarity (War Pick, Mattock)1 RP

Other/Senses/Weakness:
-Underdeveloped Sight[New!] 1 RP
-All Around Vision 4 RP
total= 16 RP

Shirego

Type: Monstrous Humanoid 1 RP

Size: Medium 0 RP

Speed: Normal 0 RP

Ability: Standard- +2 dex, +2 wis, -2 Int 0 RP

Languages: Standard (Pnubi and Common. Can Choose Urebest, Draconic, Terran, Strix, Aklo, and Pechy) 0 RP

Racial Traits

Defense:
-Natural Armor 2 RP
-Improved Natural Armor 1 RP

Feat/Skill:
-Scavenger 2 RP

Offensive:
-Hatred (dragons)1 RP

Other/Senses/Weakness:
-Underdeveloped Sight[New!] 1 RP
-Burrow 3 RP
-Sturdy Frame 1RP
-All Around Vision 4RP
total=16

updated to accommodate


Spoilers are your friend.


now for the vaem. based on the fluff provided i see their stat modifiers, i estimate their stats to be +2 dex, +2 chr, -2 int. obviously they would have telepathy, and i am considering a new racial trait that allows them to use their telepathy for verbal components (effectively immune to silence spells).


I agree with ONN on the -2CON.

Maybe make it to where they Speak out loud using Vibrations of their throat or using vibrations from their Telepathy for it. This means they still suffer from Silence.


ok so we got
+2 dex, +2 chr, -2con
telepathy 100ft (same language restrictions)
"pseudo talking" for verbal components
What else?


Maybe bonuses to a certain Bloodline similar to a Tiefling?


how about comprehend languages as a spell-like ability? we could even call it expanded telepathy. as for the bloodline boost, arcane makes sense thematically.


Or Fey.


Azaelas Fayth wrote:
Or Fey.

true and it does make one wonder if their chosen type should be fey as well.


Meh, Maybe Humanoid(Feyborn).


so far we got

Spoiler:
Vaem
type humanoid (feyborn)
Languages common elvish, bonus languages draconic, pnubi, urebeast, pechy, strix
Limited Telepathy (3 RP): A Vaem is able to mentally communicate with any creature within 30 feet with whom they share a language. Otherwise this ability is identical to the telepathy ability.
Expanded Telepathy (2 RP: twice a day a Vaem can use Comprehend languages as a spell-like ability using their class levels as cater levels.
Vibratory glands (0 RP): despite not having mouths Vaems are still able to produce vibrations necessary for use as verbal components of spells.
Old World Blood (1 RP): A vaem with the Fey bloodline may treat their charisma score as 2 higher for all bloodline related abilities.


Seems really nice! What is its current RP?


so far 7 including linguist array

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