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I didn't see this as a topic anywhere else in the forums and apologize if I'm rehashing something already beaten to death, but I have a question on how Scion of Humanity would/could work with aasimar of non-standard heritage. Let me explain.
Blood of Angels gave the option for aasimar to be descended from races other than humans as the base race (sidebar, page 4, non-human Aasimar). For those who don't have the supplement the rules indicate, in a nutshell, that an aasimar descended from a race other then human has the same stats as an aasimar descended from a human with the exception (possibly) of size.
So that being said it would not make any sense for an Aasimar who is descended from, say a gnome and celestial being, to choose the scion of humanity trait.
However I would think it makes sense to houserule it so that the trait counts as Scion of "X", where X is the parental race for the class. So to use the previous gnome aasimar as an example, if the character chooses this trait, it would be called Scion of Gnomekind and replace any mention of human in the description with gnome. So that the trait reads as such - Some aasimars' heavenly ancestry is extremely distant. An aasimar with this racial trait counts as an outsider (native) and a humanoid (gnome) for any effect related to race, including feat prerequisites and spells that affect humanoids. She can pass for gnome without using the Disguise skill. This racial trait replaces the Celestial language and alters the native subtype.
I don't see this as being too overpowering but would like some input on it. Thanks in advance.
seems legit.
I am fine with this, provided the name is not Scion of Gnomekind, but Scion of Gnominity.
Scion of Elfinity.
Scion of Halfingity.
You get the idea.
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giggity
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well this should be intersting, lets see we can make...
1.an aasimar catfolk ranger with the Catfolk exemplar and claw pounce feats, plus the lion companion for some double pounce lovin.
2.an aasimar dhampir kinslayer
3.an aasimar kobold with the dragon feats (except glide instead taking the superior angelic wings feat at 11th)note if you pick green dragon you resist every elemental damage type.
4. an aasimar samsaran reincarnated orcale, like the kinslayer it's the list for awesome fluff potential alone.
these were just some fun ideas off the top of my head.
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I am fine with this, provided the name is not Scion of Gnomekind, but Scion of Gnominity.
Scion of Elfinity.
Scion of Halfingity.
You get the idea.
LOL.. One of the players in my group is a dwarfphile and if I suggest even a little bit it should be called Dwarfinity he will punch me,,, a lot. I may just do it to distract him. :)
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well this should be intersting, lets see we can make...
1.an aasimar catfolk ranger with the Catfolk exemplar and claw pounce feats, plus the lion companion for some double pounce lovin.
2.an aasimar dhampir kinslayer
3.an aasimar kobold with the dragon feats (except glide instead taking the superior angelic wings feat at 11th)note if you pick green dragon you resist every elemental damage type.
4. an aasimar samsaran reincarnated orcale, like the kinslayer it's the list for awesome fluff potential alone.
these were just some fun ideas off the top of my head.
I ran it by my DM and he's cool with the idea so I am incorporating it into my character. I made up an elven heritage Aasimar (Peri blooded) oracle with the Ancient Lorekeeper archetype.. Should be interesting to say the least.
for some early level weakness you could get a garuda blooded (strix) airborne ambusher taking angelic wings at 11th. daunting but definitely an interesting back story.
Or just to be a bit crazy, an aasimar born of a tiefling..eligible for both feats
tieflings an outsider, pretty sure you cant do that.
Could you even have a part-Samsaran Aasimar? I mean, by RAW they're no different from any other humanoid, but they don't reproduce sexually... er, well, they do, but the child is usually a human, as I recall.
chosen to be the destined reincarnation perhaps. btw technially while you couldn't do an aasimar tiefling, you can do a tiefling(aasimar, scion of humanity) course this has no mechanical benefit.
While good ammo to get the creative juices going, none of this is possible with the RAW, so not sure the Rules Forum is where it should be. Probably more appropriate in the Suggestions/House Rules.
already knew about the racial heritage trick, but i thought cutting out the middle man would be nice.
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I didn't see this as a topic anywhere else in the forums and apologize if I'm rehashing something already beaten to death, but I have a question on how Scion of Humanity would/could work with aasimar of non-standard heritage. Let me explain.
Blood of Angels gave the option for aasimar to be descended from races other than humans as the base race (sidebar, page 4, non-human Aasimar). For those who don't have the supplement the rules indicate, in a nutshell, that an aasimar descended from a race other then human has the same stats as an aasimar descended from a human with the exception (possibly) of size.
So that being said it would not make any sense for an Aasimar who is descended from, say a gnome and celestial being, to choose the scion of humanity trait.
However I would think it makes sense to houserule it so that the trait counts as Scion of "X", where X is the parental race for the class. So to use the previous gnome aasimar as an example, if the character chooses this trait, it would be called Scion of Gnomekind and replace any mention of human in the description with gnome. So that the trait reads as such - Some aasimars' heavenly ancestry is extremely distant. An aasimar with this racial trait counts as an outsider (native) and a humanoid (gnome) for any effect related to race, including feat prerequisites and spells that affect humanoids. She can pass for gnome without using the Disguise skill. This racial trait replaces the Celestial language and alters the native subtype.
I don't see this as being too overpowering but would like some input on it. Thanks in advance.
This is something I had missed in Blood of Angels, so I just added it to the Aasimar race page on d20pfsrd.com. Thanks for that!
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This is something I had missed in Blood of Angels, so I just added it to the Aasimar race page on d20pfsrd.com. Thanks for that!
My pleasure. As BBT said Tieflings get the same options. I'm actually surprised that they didn't give the Dhampir the same options in Blood of the Night (if you need that let me know and I can send it). I would probably houserule the same thing for them as well.
well look at that, this thread is already leading to other improvements elsewhere. awesome job worley.
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well look at that, this thread is already leading to other improvements elsewhere. awesome job worley.
I'm always trying to watch the forums for things like this that we've missed, so please if you know of any other little stuff like this that we can add, let me know! (Other than pictures, sadly the pictures in the Paizo books are not community use except for very specific ones).
well look at that, this thread is already leading to other improvements elsewhere. awesome job worley.I'm always trying to watch the forums for things like this that we've missed, so please if you know of any other little stuff like this that we can add, let me know! (Other than pictures, sadly the pictures in the Paizo books are not community use except for very specific ones).
well respect to you, im a big fan of your work.
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well respect to you, im a big fan of your work.well look at that, this thread is already leading to other improvements elsewhere. awesome job worley.I'm always trying to watch the forums for things like this that we've missed, so please if you know of any other little stuff like this that we can add, let me know! (Other than pictures, sadly the pictures in the Paizo books are not community use except for very specific ones).
I wish I could take more credit, but I'm just one of many, trust me. Anyone can help, if you guys are interested, just email this address and say you want to help out! join@d20pfsrd.com