
johnlocke90 |
Nice idea but I don't know how much one would cost, I'd have to buy from the technic league.
You can make a faraday cage yourself. Its literally just a metal cage. It won't allow any electronic signals to broadcast through, which means your friend has no way to body shift.
http://www.digitaltrends.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/faraday-cages.jpg

Run, Just Run |
Run, Just Run wrote:Nice idea but I don't know how much one would cost, I'd have to buy from the technic league.You can make a faraday cage yourself. Its literally just a metal cage. It won't allow any electronic signals to broadcast through, which means your friend has no way to body shift.
http://www.digitaltrends.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/faraday-cages.jpg
Cool but I can't do that without meta-gaming because my intelligence is not high enough to concive such a structure.

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My real question is why the GM let them play an android. I know that it is available in the More Races section, but it seems like it is a perfect race to pull off this immortality. Ah, even my earlier plan might be useless with the nanobot surge giving it up to a 3+character level to a d20 roll per day. Would a fresh body allow another use to that again within the same day? Balance wise, I'd say no, but it was a physical action in an entirely different body...
There is absolutely nothing in the text of the Android race that gives them super powers over tech. Read up the race entry here Any powers the player is exhibiting beyond that race's entry are purely the GM's fault in allowing himself to be buffaloed by a genrejacking munchkin.
In short, the Android race is not Data from Next Generation, Nor is he Ultron from Marvel Comics, she's Rayna from the original series episode "Requiem for Methuselah".

Run, Just Run |
lemeres wrote:There is absolutely nothing in the text of the Android race that gives them super powers over tech. Read up the race entry here Any powers the player is exhibiting beyond that race's entry are purely the GM's fault in allowing himself to be buffaloed by a genrejacking munchkin.
My real question is why the GM let them play an android. I know that it is available in the More Races section, but it seems like it is a perfect race to pull off this immortality. Ah, even my earlier plan might be useless with the nanobot surge giving it up to a 3+character level to a d20 roll per day. Would a fresh body allow another use to that again within the same day? Balance wise, I'd say no, but it was a physical action in an entirely different body...
It's not quite superpower's it 's that he worked for the technique league and and I think the DM wanted someone able to understand the technology to make it easier on us, but I can check thanks.

Run, Just Run |
Buy a pet rust monster and yell "sic em!" *grin*
I generally advise against interparty strife, for what it's worth. Work it out between yourselves away from the table unless this is a Paranoia type of game where pvp is expected.
I enjoy your rust monster idea but he's made of synthesized flesh ):

Redchigh |
I just realized something... You seem to be complaining about his reincarnation ability?
Rejuvenation (Su): One day after a graveknight is destroyed, its armor begins to rebuild the undead horror's body. This process takes 1d10 days—if the body is destroyed before that time passes, the armor merely starts the process anew. After this time has elapsed, the graveknight wakens fully healed.
You have the same power, and you complain about his?l
Meh.

Devo |
I was going to suggest Polymorph, as his shifting relies on his physical form (the chip) in order to be able to work. I'd also question whether it works across dimensional barriers. If not, you could kill him while on another plane, in a portable hole, in a Mage's Mansion, etc.
Assuming your character doesn't know enough about technology to be sure these methods will work, I'd suggest paying for (or performing) some divinations to verify they will work. (i.e. give your character the opportunity to ask the GM if they'll work.)

Kobold Catgirl |

You have the same power, and you complain about his?l
He's not complaining, he's asking for advice. He acknowledged his foe isn't any more overpowered than his graveknight.
I like the petrification angle. Pit the guy against a bunch of basilisks. The chip won't work if it's made of granite, after all.

Jonathan Michaels |

Sounds like some GM needs to get his table in check. I would have nipped this in the bud the moment it raised its head. Leaving a glaring error in judgement like this for the players to fix is a recipe for disaster. Things like this rarely end well.
I agree, I only see one reason to allow a character to become overpowered like that and that's if your party's been getting their butts kicked and the DM gives a member more powers to help rebalance things, and when that happens, said character should basically become the DM's sidekick in a way, helping advance the plot and keeping everyone alive and happy.
But if this guy's turning everything into a starring vehicle for himself, it's time to slap him down a little, but be gentle about it.
Maybe have the character get taken by the big bad and he can roll up a new one to help the party go save him, that way, he can still feel special without ruining everyone else's fun.

Run, Just Run |
Netromancer wrote:Sounds like some GM needs to get his table in check. I would have nipped this in the bud the moment it raised its head. Leaving a glaring error in judgement like this for the players to fix is a recipe for disaster. Things like this rarely end well.I agree, I only see one reason to allow a character to become overpowered like that and that's if your party's been getting their butts kicked and the DM gives a member more powers to help rebalance things, and when that happens, said character should basically become the DM's sidekick in a way, helping advance the plot and keeping everyone alive and happy.
But if this guy's turning everything into a starring vehicle for himself, it's time to slap him down a little, but be gentle about it.
Maybe have the character get taken by the big bad and he can roll up a new one to help the party go save him, that way, he can still feel special without ruining everyone else's fun.
Definitely a good idea, I will see what the GM says.

lemeres |

LazarX wrote:It's not quite superpower's it 's that he worked for the technique league and and I think the DM wanted someone able to understand the technology to make it easier on us, but I can check thanks.lemeres wrote:There is absolutely nothing in the text of the Android race that gives them super powers over tech. Read up the race entry here Any powers the player is exhibiting beyond that race's entry are purely the GM's fault in allowing himself to be buffaloed by a genrejacking munchkin.
My real question is why the GM let them play an android. I know that it is available in the More Races section, but it seems like it is a perfect race to pull off this immortality. Ah, even my earlier plan might be useless with the nanobot surge giving it up to a 3+character level to a d20 roll per day. Would a fresh body allow another use to that again within the same day? Balance wise, I'd say no, but it was a physical action in an entirely different body...
I think the android can use the technology because he is a wizard, and thus has a great Int score. A skill point here and there, a good Int mod, and then he has the secrets. And those secrets could include making the DC check for getting access harder by increasing security for 'nonregistered users.'
My problem is when you said that he is using technology to go about this. While I can understanding a bit of reflavoring of a spell or two for a theme like that (I'm sure there are a few spells that give similar effects), if it has an actual effect on gameplay, giving him an unfair advantage, then it is a problem. If it is just a reflavored spell, then the rules should allow you to deal with it like it was that spell. If some sci-fi technobabble is used to weasel out of it, call b.s. I'm sure that even if an android lacks a soul or something, any soul binding techniques would suffice since it would have to have something equivilant to use magic it seems. Sci-fi technobabble the spells into having enough fake science to work. Make it like a spiritual Faraday cage or something. Unless the GM is in league with this player (he would make a great BBEG, and a big surprise), you can find a way. Remember, if he tries to use physics to escape the rules of magic, remind him that magic changes the laws of physics. Just be careful, since he also knows the power of magic.

Delthyn |

Why has no one else suggested the obvious?
Destroy the base of operations. Burn it with fire, nuke it, disintegrate it, bombard it with every offensive spell known to man and god. Hope that the Android Wizard's extra bodies are caught in the conflagration.
Barring that, the other best way to go about it is to embark on a quest to the Dimension of Time, and in a blue box, ride the Time Vortex back to before the Android was first created, and then terminate the creator. Works like a charm. Be sure that your blue box is sealed against radiation however.
If nuking your home and time traveling get stopped by the GM/Android Wizard, there's always the old dependable strategy. Say the word "Hastur" three times and then plane warp to another dimension. Works every time, just be sure that your DM is familiar with H.P. Lovecraft.
Barring everything else, the final solution is of course to destroy all of reality. The best way to accomplish this is probably to open Rovagug's prison, and unleash the Horror Primeval upon all of creation. The feasibility of this is in doubt, but it would certainly be easier than just killing the android over and over until he stays dead.

Run, Just Run |
Why has no one else suggested the obvious?
Destroy the base of operations. Burn it with fire, nuke it, disintegrate it, bombard it with every offensive spell known to man and god. Hope that the Android Wizard's extra bodies are caught in the conflagration.
Barring that, the other best way to go about it is to embark on a quest to the Dimension of Time, and in a blue box, ride the Time Vortex back to before the Android was first created, and then terminate the creator. Works like a charm. Be sure that your blue box is sealed against radiation however.
If nuking your home and time traveling get stopped by the GM/Android Wizard, there's always the old dependable strategy. Say the word "Hastur" three times and then plane warp to another dimension. Works every time, just be sure that your DM is familiar with H.P. Lovecraft.
Barring everything else, the final solution is of course to destroy all of reality. The best way to accomplish this is probably to open Rovagug's prison, and unleash the Horror Primeval upon all of creation. The feasibility of this is in doubt, but it would certainly be easier than just killing the android over and over until he stays dead.
nice dr. who reference thanks for the hastur thing, but I would need to say it without metagaming,which wouldn't be hard since we have seen the vale between our world and his. The bombardment idea may work but the futuristic metal is insanely hard and the fort has defensive turrets can 1 shot me.

Run, Just Run |
The possibility of using a farraday cage would imply a wireless transmission (wide band fidelity or not). If indeed this chip is communicating to other chips using magic then we ought to be discussing antimagic shells or walls or somesuch.
It's not magic , he reworked it into technology

lemeres |
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tennengar wrote:The possibility of using a farraday cage would imply a wireless transmission (wide band fidelity or not). If indeed this chip is communicating to other chips using magic then we ought to be discussing antimagic shells or walls or somesuch.It's not magic , he reworked it into technology
Yeah, that's the problem here. First, does anyone else have anything on par with this? I mean, did you even get a lightsaber for letting him genre jack this game? Also...considering that magic is a part of the very physics of this setting...can an advanced society make something completely devoid of magic? I mean, use of digital signal to transmit a 'spirit' sounds completely inefficient in a world with the magical jar spell (if I use how slow and shaky my wifi connection is). Any advanced society would likely use magitek. Try arguing for that with your GM to help balance things since almost none of the rules give you any options to deal with this directly.
Or argue for ways to mess up the physical laws that it relies upon. I wonder what an electric elemental would do to the local electromagnetic fields. Having an entity made up of a constant lightning strike probably would not help any. See what you can do. Even if you do not have the magic to do it, remember: you are evil and thus not above hiring contractors to do the job for you.