Expedition Manager clarification


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Sovereign Court 1/5

Where it lists the maximum item price, that's cost of the total item, not an upgrade right? In other words, since magic armor requires you to buy a masterwork version and then upgrade it to magical, you couldn't use the 2PP=1k option since the total item price would be something north of 1k? Same thing applies to a weapon. It would seem you couldn't get a magic weapon with the 4PP=2k option. In both cases you'd need to use the next option up.

I am not complaining at all as this is an awesome boon that will save most people over 10k gold with proper planning. I just want to make sure I am spending the proper number of PP and not overspending.

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Expedition Manager?

Sovereign Court 1/5

#4 - Expedition Manager: In addition to your more dangerous duties as a Pathfinder, you also have undertaken an archaeological expedition at a minor site. Your venture-captain expects you to fund the expedition yourself, but so long as you report on your findings, you may keep any physical goods uncovered for yourself. When rolling you day job check at the end of a scenario, you may spend between 2 and 6 prestige points to pay for supplies, expenses, and personnel. The next time you roll a day job check, the expedition returns with research and relics dependant upon how many prestige points you spent.

You can acquire any single item of the listed price or less at no cost. An item acquired in this way is worth 0 gp and cannot be sold. In addition, your archaelogical findings may contain clues about historical events, arcane enigmas, or other mysteries. As a free action, you gain a bonus on a knowledge (arcana, history, planes, or religion) check equal to the number of prestige points that you spent. When you use the skill bonus, cross this boon off of your chronicle sheet.
2PP: the item acquired costs 1000gp or less
4pp: the item acquired costs 2000gp or less
6pp: the item acquired costs 3500gp or less

It was originally a Gen Con boon, but I got it at a local con Special.

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Ok then..

Based on that it would be the total price, not what you spend on an upgrade.

5/5

Side clarification: I am tempted to read the first paragraph as not expiring. Only the skill check would seem to be crossed off. This is probably just wishful thinking right? Which is to say, the ability to acquire an item is also one-shot?

4/5

Both of my answers follow RAI and not the strictest reading of RAW (lessons for future boon-writing, I suppose). Thank you for bringing this up.

1) The item represents a new item, not an upgrade. The idea is to have uncovered a new piece, not buried your favorite piece of armor underground, watered it daily, and returned a month later to gain a +2 enhancement bonus.

2) I believe both abilities were intended as one-shot bonuses. The single expedition uncovers not only a relic but a lost secret. Upon gaining the relic, you can hang onto the secret for as long as you want, but using the bonus fulfills and ends the boon's effect.

Grand Lodge 1/5

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John Compton wrote:

Both of my answers follow RAI and not the strictest reading of RAW (lessons for future boon-writing, I suppose). Thank you for bringing this up.

1) The item represents a new item, not an upgrade. The idea is to have uncovered a new piece, not buried your favorite piece of armor underground, watered it daily, and returned a month later to gain a +2 enhancement bonus.

2) I believe both abilities were intended as one-shot bonuses. The single expedition uncovers not only a relic but a lost secret. Upon gaining the relic, you can hang onto the secret for as long as you want, but using the bonus fulfills and ends the boon's effect.

I posted this question previously with no response. I then emailed Mike Brock directly for a ruling, and this is what I received in clarification.

from: Mike Brock mike.brock@paizo.com
to: Akeela Valerian <wolf.of.cormyr@gmail.com>
date: Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 7:36 PM
subject: Re: Pathfinder Society Reporting Problem
mailed-by: paizo.com

No, it is not a one shot.

Sent from my iPad

On Sep 2, 2012, at 3:10 PM, Akeela Valerian <wolf.of.cormyr@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sorry, that was Gencon 2012 Boon #4.
>
> On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Akeela Valerian <wolf.of.cormyr@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Mike , question regarding Boon #4. Are both parts of this boon one shot? IE it allows a one time PP expenditure, which generates a one time knowledge bonus.
>
> Thanks.
>
> #4 - Expedition Manager: In addition to your more dangerous duties as a Pathfinder, you also have undertaken an archaeological expedition at a minor site. Your venture-captain expects you to fund the expedition yourself, but so long as you report on your findings, you may keep any physical goods uncovered for yourself. When rolling you day job check at the end of a scenario, you may spend between 2 and 6 prestige points to pay for supplies, expenses, and personnel. The next time you roll a day job check, the expedition returns with research and relics dependant upon how many prestige points you spent.
> You can acquire any single item of the listed price or less at no cost. An item acquired in this way is worth 0 gp and cannot be sold. In addition, your archaelogical findings may contain clues about historical events, arcane enigmas, or other mysteries. As a free action, you gain a bonus on a knowledge (arcana, history, planes, or religion) check equal to the number of prestige points that you spent. When you use the skill bonus, cross this boon off of your chronicle sheet.
> 2PP: the item acquired costs 1000gp or less
> 4pp: the item acquired costs 2000gp or less
> 6pp: the item acquired costs 3500gp or less

Sovereign Court 1/5

How does this interact with the item purchase cost limits as relates to Fame? Would you have to wait until 9 Fame to use the 2PP=1k item option, and so on?

Sovereign Court 1/5

Nevermind, I think this answers it, unless someone else knows of something that contradicts this. Now the question is what 1k item do I want after my first mod, or to wait two mods for a 2k item.

Shadow Lodge 4/5

Items purchased by spending Prestige are not limited by the PCs amount of Fame.

See THIS THREAD for details.

Sovereign Court 1/5

Too slow, Eric. Must be the bum leg...

Dark Archive 4/5

Its actually alot more limited than you would think,

1. Modules dont permit day job checks hence you wouldnt be able to pay prestige to get the item after doing a module or GMing a scenario, you also wouldnt technically obtain the item if you play a mod after paying the PP to purchase it you would have to wait till you next complete a scenario that allows a day job roll.

2. you have to wait at least 1 scenario (see part 1) to recieve the item (you commission the group and pay the PP after scenario X and they return at the end of scenario X+1 with the relic).

Dark Archive 5/5

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Caderyn wrote:

Its actually alot more limited than you would think,

1. Modules dont permit day job checks hence you wouldnt be able to pay prestige to get the item after doing a module or GMing a scenario, you also wouldnt technically obtain the item if you play a mod after paying the PP to purchase it you would have to wait till you next complete a scenario that allows a day job roll.

2. you have to wait at least 1 scenario (see part 1) to recieve the item (you commission the group and pay the PP after scenario X and they return at the end of scenario X+1 with the relic).

For those who are reading this thread in Season 7 or later (Year of the Serpent or later), please consult your current Pathfinder Society Roleplaying Guild Guide or its current equivalent. The use of this boon would qualify as a Downtime Activity and Caderyn's interpretation is no longer correct as of Season 7.

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I looked over the guide but I'm not sure what you're talking about. What's different?

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Modules now allow Day Job rolls.

Liberty's Edge 5/5 **

Ah. That makes sense.

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