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I thought about it for a long time and I can only think of one really big one: I hate wasting food. If I make some food, or order it, I'm going to eat every last bite even if it tastes awful rather than throw it away. I'm two generations removed from the great depression, but I think that's been passed down from my grandparents. There's an overwhelming sense of guilt about wasting things in general, but especially food.
Sometimes I'll buy things in the grocery store in smaller portions, being more expensive per ounce, worrying that I'd waste some of it if I bought a bigger can/jar/bag/etc.
In a larger sense it ties in with my frugality. But, hey, I live on <15k/yr, have a big screen TV and an iPad, and no debt. So my friends are welcome to call me cheap while they drive a car paid for by a bank.
Sounds like me, wife blames it on being a Pole
If you're going to say, like "I've never watched Star Trek, or B5, or Doctor Who" then I'm going to say you're missing out. But watching those things, these days, doesn't necessitate having an ACTUAL television.
I watch Doctor Who, Mythbusters, and Community (or more accurately the last one is on my to-do list) online. Not much interest in pretty much anything else TV has to offer.
If you're going to say, like "I've never watched Star Trek, or B5, or Doctor Who" then I'm going to say you're missing out. But watching those things, these days, doesn't necessitate having an ACTUAL television.I watch Doctor Who, Mythbusters, and Community (or more accurately the last one is on my to-do list) online. Not much interest in pretty much anything else TV has to offer.
And this is where I say "you're missing out" cuz B5 is awesome. So is Farscape. And Red Dwarf.
Heh. I deal.
Doctor Who's the only one I generally am able to keep up with at all. Mythbusters I'll usually splurge on when I get a free day that I don't need to do anything with, or if I happen to catch it when I'm not busy. That lack of time is the reason Community is still on the to-do list rather than already watched. I just don't have time to add to the list.
I thought about it for a long time and I can only think of one really big one: I hate wasting food. If I make some food, or order it, I'm going to eat every last bite even if it tastes awful rather than throw it away. I'm two generations removed from the great depression, but I think that's been passed down from my grandparents. There's an overwhelming sense of guilt about wasting things in general, but especially food.
I was raised the same way, and generally clean my plate. Exceptions being if it's really that bad, or if someone else filled my plate. (A new family friend once put something on my plate that I didn't ask for, and I immediately disliked her.)
I think these are either universal taboos or they should be
1) don't speak to someone on/in the toilet
2) don't speak to strangers when riding public transport
3) don't make eye contact with people inside a shop
4) don't state the obvious makes us humans look bad
1. Okay, yeah, some of us require concentration to do our business...
2. Bwah? Not that I chat up strangers every day, but why do you think it's a problem in particular?
3. ...Have you been spending time with a lot of silverback gorillas?
4. I'm pretty sure this is how small talk happens.
People should not use verbal greetings unless they actually mean to initiate conversation. If a message that one has seen another and does not intend immediate violence is required, a wave suffices.
I'm a fan of the guy nod, myself. Maybe a grunted "Hey" if I'm in a gregarious mood. ;)
From some looks and comments I've gotten from people when mentioning it, not watching TV might be pretty taboo in itself. I had a guy give me a whole "What's wrong with you?!" this past Saturday when I told him I didn't watch football.
Seriously? Playing sports can be fun; watching any of them is an utter bore.
I've lived without a tv for the past few years, and only missed it a little bit. *sniff* Still haven't seen the Game of Thrones on a screen.
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@GEB PIEs aren't a fiction if that's what you're suggesting.Oh, I am aware of the vulgar abuse of the tools of archaeology.
I am not a professional archaeologist but I do have two degrees (bachelors and masters) in the subject and I can start by telling you that treating linguistic reconstruction with any great seriousness places you on the lunatic fringe because it is so tentative and exploratory.
I would regard that Wikipedia article (which is clearly sceptical about almost everything to do with proto-indo-europeans) as still not sceptical enough. Stating with confidence that proto-indo-europeans worshipped a 'sky-god' is reaching, AFAIK, because it assumes a consistency of personality attached to a name which cannot really be guaranteed (considering the amount of words we know of which go through a simple inversion in a matter of 50 or 60 years, they could have worshipped an earth god).
To be honest, anyone prepared to declare that there was a consistent culture is going to seem absurd, next thing yellowdingo will be telling us about the beliefs of the 'beaker people'...
Just because a similar language root developed across a broad region does not mean that the entire region would adopt specific cultural behaviours like spinning right to go left. In all honesty, the spinning-top idea sounds absurd and I am really intrigued to know where that little gem comes from.
Just consider the communication limitations of the period, then explain how people from (modern, geographical) Normandy to (modern, geographical) Nepal would share the same culture.
Language groups are not cultures, the basques developed a near-unique language but must have much greater contact with (modern, geographical) Central France than people in (modern, geographical) Iran.
I get it from the guy who wrote the book on protoindoeuropean and it sits at the back of a really big Mcgraw-Hill international dictionary (in case you were wondering what book). And languages are cultures and their history - you can describe a culture by the words it uses and the words it doesn't. The Protoindoeuropeans didn't use a word for sea or ocean so they infer that they were an inland people - they knew what small bodies of water were, snow, wild woods, uncultivated forest, mountains, hills, swamps, bogs were - they didn't know deserts- and had no word for the concept of a desert.
And the reason one goes right when turning is because left (as a direction) is a taboo concept for protoindoeuropeans thus it follows that if one does not wish to violate that taboo, one goes right until one faces what is to the left...conceivably it is a cultural superstition that had no use in battle with anyone who thought there were no taboos when it came to survival. Likewise no use of a weapon in the left hand would limit you to single handed weapons and a right hand.
Its like Burqa: Arabic translators insist it comes from the protoindoeuropean root ruk-(meaning woven cloth) but there is no B in that root, however there is Bhoso-Ka which is more in keeping with the egyptian word for Burka and this root divides in to two roots: Naked-To Desire implying the Burqa was not to be worn outside the home - because the woman would be naked beneath it - conceivably if other men show up unexpectedly you would be expected to put on this clothing to hide you from them.
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Not sure if taboos or codes of conduct, but anyway:
1.- Never refer to someone noticeable older in the informal "You" (I speak Castilian, where we have "Tu" being the informal of "You" and "Usted" being the formal).
2.- Never raise a hand to a woman.
3.- Always say "Hello" to anyone you spend any noticeable amount of time with, unless in a highly impersonal context (ie, in a crowd).
4.- Always greet with a nod and a smile anyone you make eye contact with.
5.- Always check if someone is behind you when you open a door, and hold it accordingly.
6.- Always give the seat to women, the elderly, disabled people.
7.- If there is a woman standing, a man does not sit (context depending, of course. If she's giving a speech, a man can sit down).
8.- Never start eating before your parents or grandparents. Nor the house's owner if you are a guest.
9.- Never put more in your plate than what you are going to eat.
10.- Always offer to serve food and water to others before serving yourself.
11.- Never throw away food. Get tupperwares and make spaghetti tortilla if necessary.
12.- Always reject uncalled gifts two times. Accept them on the third.
13.- Always greet the men in your family with a kiss in the cheek. Men outside your family, you always greet with a shake, unless very close, in which case its a kiss. Always greet women, family or otherwise, with a kiss in the cheek (though I relax this rule when I'm in other countries where people are less warm).
14.- Never bring up private subjects between people in front of a third.
15.- Never talk about money, politics or religion on the table, unless you are certain everyone is on the same line.
16.- Respect people's beliefs to the best of your ability, even if they seem silly to you.
17.- Never promise something you can't fulfil, and never break a promise you made.
18.- Always say "Please" when asking, "Thank you" when receiving, and "You are welcome" when being thanked.
19.- Always let at least one car pass when you have the preference. Not too many either, though, since there are also people waiting in your lane.
20.- Parents are sacred. If you have to cut off your leg for them, you cut off your leg.
21.- A person who is nice to you but not to a waiter is not a nice person. Be a nice person.
I never drive faster than I can see.Besides its all in the reflexes.
No h*~*!!%$# Jack?
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No h+**~$@$+ Jack?I never drive faster than I can see.Besides its all in the reflexes.
I contest that notion!
No matter your reflexes, if you get hit by Spiky Shells and that thing that turns people into a giant bullet you'll lose the race!
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No h+**~$@$+ Jack?I never drive faster than I can see.Besides its all in the reflexes.I contest that notion!
No matter your reflexes, if you get hit by Spiky Shells and that thing that turns people into a giant bullet you'll lose the race!
One Shell
Two ShellRed Shell
Blue Shell
Death on Swift Wings Comes for You Shell
Pain such as you Never Knew Shell
Screaming out your Coming Doom Shell
ROTFL
No h+**~$@$+ Jack?I never drive faster than I can see.Besides its all in the reflexes.I contest that notion!
No matter your reflexes, if you get hit by Spiky Shells and that thing that turns people into a giant bullet you'll lose the race!
One Shell
Two Shell
Red Shell
Blue Shell
Death on Swift Wings Comes for You Shell
Pain such as you Never Knew Shell
Screaming out your Coming Doom Shell
Despite being a suburban-raised fishbelly-white American mutt, I am at least from the greater Chicago area, so we have one distinct food taboo: never put ketchup on a hot dog. You can pile a whole salad bar worth of fixings on it, but never ketchup. Ever.
That said, I do it all the time at home to the cheap grocery store frozen dogs. Steak too, for extra trashiness.
I also never bring up religion, politics, or baseball in mixed company, because fights (not just verbal arguments, but also actual fist-fights) literally do break out around here over the Cubs-White Sox divide, even during a season when they both suck.
Speaking of the Cubs, there is also the Curse of the Billy Goat, the story of which every native knows by heart. Lesser well-known is the black cat from the ill-fated 1969 season, or more recently, the embarassing Bartman incident of 2003. Rest assured that the next time the Cubs spectacularly choke at a World Series run, there will be a new superstition extending from the curse. Either way, don't bring up goats around optimistic Cubs fans unless you're confidant you can hold your ground.
Oh yeah, one more, but I doubt that it's endemic to Chicago; if you're in the city, don't look up. You'll look like a tourist.
Despite being a suburban-raised fishbelly-white American mutt, I am at least from the greater Chicago area, so we have one distinct food taboo: never put ketchup on a hot dog. You can pile a whole salad bar worth of fixings on it, but never ketchup. Ever.
That said, I do it all the time at home to the cheap grocery store frozen dogs. Steak too, for extra trashiness.
I also never bring up religion, politics, or baseball in mixed company, because fights (not just verbal arguments, but also actual fist-fights) literally do break out around here over the Cubs-White Sox divide, even during a season when they both suck.
Speaking of the Cubs, there is also the Curse of the Billy Goat, the story of which every native knows by heart. Lesser well-known is the black cat from the ill-fated 1969 season, or more recently, the embarassing Bartman incident of 2003. Rest assured that the next time the Cubs spectacularly choke at a World Series run, there will be a new superstition extending from the curse. Either way, don't bring up goats around optimistic Cubs fans unless you're confidant you can hold your ground.
Oh yeah, one more, but I doubt that it's endemic to Chicago; if you're in the city, don't look up. You'll look like a tourist.
These are interesting taboos, man. What's the deal with White Sox Vs. Cubs? I'd like to know more on that one.
Not sure if taboos or codes of conduct, but anyway:
Very similar to how people used to behave here in the southern United States. Sadly, good manners and respect for others seems to be taught less and less by parents and so much is going by the wayside.
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@GEB PIEs aren't a fiction if that's what you're suggesting.Oh, I am aware of the vulgar abuse of the tools of archaeology.
I am not a professional archaeologist but I do have two degrees (bachelors and masters) in the subject and I can start by telling you that treating linguistic reconstruction with any great seriousness places you on the lunatic fringe because it is so tentative and exploratory.
I would regard that Wikipedia article (which is clearly sceptical about almost everything to do with proto-indo-europeans) as still not sceptical enough. Stating with confidence that proto-indo-europeans worshipped a 'sky-god' is reaching, AFAIK, because it assumes a consistency of personality attached to a name which cannot really be guaranteed (considering the amount of words we know of which go through a simple inversion in a matter of 50 or 60 years, they could have worshipped an earth god).
To be honest, anyone prepared to declare that there was a consistent culture is going to seem absurd, next thing yellowdingo will be telling us about the beliefs of the 'beaker people'...
Just because a similar language root developed across a broad region does not mean that the entire region would adopt specific cultural behaviours like spinning right to go left. In all honesty, the spinning-top idea sounds absurd and I am really intrigued to know where that little gem comes from.
Just consider the communication limitations of the period, then explain how people from (modern, geographical) Normandy to (modern, geographical) Nepal would share the same culture.
Language groups are not cultures, the basques developed a near-unique language but must have much greater contact with (modern, geographical) Central France than people in (modern, geographical) Iran.
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First off lets go back to the Skygod - PIE refer to 'Bright (Refering to Sky) + Father (Patriarch as opposed to Parent).
Their word for the absolute Authority of each and every clan of the Indoeuropeans is Patriarch of the Bright Sky.
Smells like Sky god to me - and it is odd because they have abandoned a central Monarch - which is only used in earlier versions of the language- for Clans and an Absolute Patriarch.
And The Basque are also on the Protoindoeuropean language tree. its like the Japanese - the Words are Protoindoeuropean but they are no longer all used as they are intended - rather they are used as they have been translated and given meaning by successive generations.
Read the Equipment of the Ninja found in early Dragon magazines.
Nage teppo: Small smoke grenades using egg shells as containers (Nebh-ge (smoke-earth) / Na-ge(Death Earth); Tep-po (to be warm - ))
Ninja-to: Ninja’s Short Sword (Ni-ng-atto-to (under- orders- the father - to demonstrate))
Saego: Belt or cord used to wear the sword’s scabbard and as a garrotte (Sae-ge (to satisfy-earth))
As you can see it isn't the Ninja-to, that is simply the phrase that was used at the time and confusion followed... because it causes change in the language. So if the Ninja-to isn't actually the Ninja-to, what is it? A Katana?
Not sure if taboos or codes of conduct, but anyway:Very similar to how people used to behave here in the southern United States. Sadly, good manners and respect for others seems to be taught less and less by parents and so much is going by the wayside.
What was it Plato said again....?
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What was it Plato said again....?Not sure if taboos or codes of conduct, but anyway:Very similar to how people used to behave here in the southern United States. Sadly, good manners and respect for others seems to be taught less and less by parents and so much is going by the wayside.
Get me out of this cave?
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If invited in for a meal of human flesh, I never accept and then ask if I can instead have a cheese danish.
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These are interesting taboos, man. What's the deal with White Sox Vs. Cubs? I'd like to know more on that one.Despite being a suburban-raised fishbelly-white American mutt, I am at least from the greater Chicago area, so we have one distinct food taboo: never put ketchup on a hot dog. You can pile a whole salad bar worth of fixings on it, but never ketchup. Ever.
That said, I do it all the time at home to the cheap grocery store frozen dogs. Steak too, for extra trashiness.
I also never bring up religion, politics, or baseball in mixed company, because fights (not just verbal arguments, but also actual fist-fights) literally do break out around here over the Cubs-White Sox divide, even during a season when they both suck.
Speaking of the Cubs, there is also the Curse of the Billy Goat, the story of which every native knows by heart. Lesser well-known is the black cat from the ill-fated 1969 season, or more recently, the embarassing Bartman incident of 2003. Rest assured that the next time the Cubs spectacularly choke at a World Series run, there will be a new superstition extending from the curse. Either way, don't bring up goats around optimistic Cubs fans unless you're confidant you can hold your ground.
Oh yeah, one more, but I doubt that it's endemic to Chicago; if you're in the city, don't look up. You'll look like a tourist.
Cubs: Northside and blue collar
White Sox: Southside and white collar
These are interesting taboos, man. What's the deal with White Sox Vs. Cubs? I'd like to know more on that one.Despite being a suburban-raised fishbelly-white American mutt, I am at least from the greater Chicago area, so we have one distinct food taboo: never put ketchup on a hot dog. You can pile a whole salad bar worth of fixings on it, but never ketchup. Ever.
That said, I do it all the time at home to the cheap grocery store frozen dogs. Steak too, for extra trashiness.
I also never bring up religion, politics, or baseball in mixed company, because fights (not just verbal arguments, but also actual fist-fights) literally do break out around here over the Cubs-White Sox divide, even during a season when they both suck.
Speaking of the Cubs, there is also the Curse of the Billy Goat, the story of which every native knows by heart. Lesser well-known is the black cat from the ill-fated 1969 season, or more recently, the embarassing Bartman incident of 2003. Rest assured that the next time the Cubs spectacularly choke at a World Series run, there will be a new superstition extending from the curse. Either way, don't bring up goats around optimistic Cubs fans unless you're confidant you can hold your ground.
Oh yeah, one more, but I doubt that it's endemic to Chicago; if you're in the city, don't look up. You'll look like a tourist.
Cubs: Northside and blue collar
White Sox: Southside and white collar
Basically this, yeah. There's some debate over where the North and South Sides actually begin and end, and that's not taking into account the West Side or Downtown (Chicago has no East Side as it borders Lake Michigan), but it pretty much boils down to belonging to one or the other. The stereotype is that all of the rich yuppies live up North and all the working-class slobs live down South.
Personally, I was raised and currently live in the Southland area so most of my neighbors are Sox fans, but I have relatives who are dyed-in-the-wool Cubs fans. It makes for interesting family gatherings.
Now I'm extra confused.
Martin says Northside=blue collar and cubs.
Bob Evil says North is rich yuppies.
I also never bring up religion, politics, or baseball in mixed company, because fights (not just verbal arguments, but also actual fist-fights) literally do break out around here over the Cubs-White Sox divide, even during a season when they both suck.
I don't know anyone who's that into baseball, but I myself never bring up D&D editions in mixed company anymore.
...Unless of course a fresh campaign is being discussed, in which case it's sort of a necessity.
Now I'm extra confused.
Martin says Northside=blue collar and cubs.
Bob Evil says North is rich yuppies.
I've just caught that now that you've pointed it out, but I'm afraid Martin is mistaken. The North Side definitely has more money in it than the South Side. The number of millionaires that live in the Gold Coast alone would put the North Side way ahead in that regard. It also allows them to be able to afford more parks, theaters, and beer gardens, while the South Side still has a lot of exposed brick and metal infrastructure; a good chunk of it used to be stockyards, and it shows. The South Side also used to have the largest communities of day laborers back in the 19th and 20th centuries.
Don't get me wrong, there are working class people in the North Side, but the stereotype is that North is white collar and South is blue collar.
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I have to admit that the vast majority of my knowledge of Chicago comes from the admittedly-unreliable Harry Dresden.
But... Which ones like the White Sox and which ones like the Cubs?
North Side: Cubs.
South Side: White Sox.
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I have to admit that the vast majority of my knowledge of Chicago comes from the admittedly-unreliable Harry Dresden.
That is what the White Council wants you to believe! Harry tells the truth! Vampire wenches and rains of toads! Don't listen to the Merlin, he's trying to hmphmnhm...!
<Disappears through a rift into the Nevernever>
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Now I'm extra confused.
Martin says Northside=blue collar and cubs.
Bob Evil says North is rich yuppies.
Martin's from out of town. Bob Evil is from a spirit that reads nothing but trashy romance novels. Neither are that reliable.
Attempting to pet my cat's exposed belly, even when she "invites" me to.
Hah! Seconded!
Martin's from out of town. Bob Evil is from a spirit that reads nothing but trashy romance novels. Neither are that reliable.Now I'm extra confused.
Martin says Northside=blue collar and cubs.
Bob Evil says North is rich yuppies.
Actually it's an MST3K reference, but after a derail this long I can't really blame you for the accusation. :-/
Actually, it's an MST3K reference, but after a derail this long I can't really blame you for the accusation. :-/Martin's from out of town. Bob Evil is from a spirit that reads nothing but trashy romance novels. Neither are that reliable.Now I'm extra confused.
Martin says Northside=blue collar and cubs.
Bob Evil says North is rich yuppies.
And hers was a Dresden Files one ;)
Actually it's an MST3K reference, but after a derail this long I can't really blame you for the accusation. :-/Martin's from out of town. Bob Evil is from a spirit that reads nothing but trashy romance novels. Neither are that reliable.Now I'm extra confused.
Martin says Northside=blue collar and cubs.
Bob Evil says North is rich yuppies.
Yeah, sorry, I saw a few Dresden jokes and thought that was the trend. =)
Yeah, sorry, I saw a few Dresden jokes and thought that was the trend. =)Actually it's an MST3K reference, but after a derail this long I can't really blame you for the accusation. :-/Martin's from out of town. Bob Evil is from a spirit that reads nothing but trashy romance novels. Neither are that reliable.Now I'm extra confused.
Martin says Northside=blue collar and cubs.
Bob Evil says North is rich yuppies.
No worries. I got curious as to what you meant, and now I've got an excuse to crack open that copy of Storm Front I picked up a year ago. :-)
No worries. I got curious as to what you meant, and now I've got an excuse to crack open that copy of Storm Front I picked up a year ago. :-)Yeah, sorry, I saw a few Dresden jokes and thought that was the trend. =)Actually it's an MST3K reference, but after a derail this long I can't really blame you for the accusation. :-/Martin's from out of town. Bob Evil is from a spirit that reads nothing but trashy romance novels. Neither are that reliable.Now I'm extra confused.
Martin says Northside=blue collar and cubs.
Bob Evil says North is rich yuppies.
Victory! I do hope you shan't be disappointed. =)