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Apparently thanks to the Quake that caused the Tidal Wave, Japan is now in trouble. MT Fuji sits on a Magma chamber 15 Km below the surface which would on reaching 0.1 megapascals cause an eruption. That Magma chamber is now at 1.6 megapascals so it will probably take most of the island when it blows and send Tidal waves at China, Korea, Philipines, Indonesia, Canada, Alaska, Western USA, Hawaii...We are likely looking at a super-eruption that will be heard as far as Australia and the USA.
So would it be right to err on the side of caution and evacuate fifty million Japanese to Tasmania?
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The problem isn't the volcano per se. Rather it's the noise which will inevitably awaken Godzilla who will then surely destroy Tokyo and any other population zone in it's grumpy just-woken-up swathe of destruction. Nothing like a swathe to send a nation back to the stone age.
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Also, the solar mass ejection will have destroyed every transformer on the planet when Godzilla wakes up, so not even the Autobots will be able to help us against the kaiju...
Also, the solar mass ejection will have destroyed every transformer on the planet when Godzilla wakes up, so not even the Autobots will be able to help us against the kaiju...
THIS UNIT IS PREPARED FOR SUCH EVENTUALITIES.
This is a concern, actually. I see where you are coming from, CJ, but there's still a chance something could happen relatively suddenly.
I have family near Yellowstone and the surrounding area. So that's a bigger concern for me than anything else.
This is a concern, actually. I see where you are coming from, CJ, but there's still a chance something could happen relatively suddenly.Which part?
Fuji or Yellowstone?
Fuji.
The problem isn't the volcano per se. Rather it's the noise which will inevitably awaken Godzilla who will then surely destroy Tokyo and any other population zone in it's grumpy just-woken-up swathe of destruction. Nothing like a swathe to send a nation back to the stone age.
Quick, somebody make a really big cup of coffee!!
So would it be right to err on the side of caution and evacuate fifty million Japanese to Tasmania?
WRONG!
They should be sent ta Darwin an rubber stamped fer citizenship.
FOR MAH MAYORAL CAMPAIGN!
NOW SUSS YERSELVES.
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Everything I can find reported about Fuji says it could be destructive for those in the immediate vacinity and send ash as far away as 100km.
That's not even close to laying waste to the entire nation of Japan.
Well, economically speaking, it could lay waste to Japan. If the ash cloud causes Tokyo to shut down, which would be a definite possibility, the economic and governmental center of the nation is effectively shut down.
It could also effective cut the nation in two for the short term (as far as land travel goes), depending on the spread of the ash.
Do not underestimate the Japanese. History shows them to be resilient and have the means to repopulate.
They'll be able to grow really awesome tomatoes in Nebraska.
Okay, I gotta ask, since I'm apparently more out of the geological loop than I thought. What is in Yellowstone that is "game over"? And just how game over are we talking - Western US? Continental US? North America? The entire hemisphere?
There have been some indications over the years that the magma chamber under Yellowstone is filling up again. Parts of the caldera have been rising slowly.
The Yellowstone volcano would cause lots of trouble all across North America and probably the rest of the world. Humanity WOULD survive, but NA would be devastated. Think nuclear winter.
Wonderfrigginful... I dislike NORMAL winter.
Apparently thanks to the Quake that caused the Tidal Wave, Japan is now in trouble. MT Fuji sits on a Magma chamber 15 Km below the surface which would on reaching 0.1 megapascals cause an eruption. That Magma chamber is now at 1.6 megapascals so it will probably take most of the island when it blows and send Tidal waves at China, Korea, Philipines, Indonesia, Canada, Alaska, Western USA, Hawaii...We are likely looking at a super-eruption that will be heard as far as Australia and the USA.
So would it be right to err on the side of caution and evacuate fifty million Japanese to Tasmania?
The Santorini event around 1600 BC and more recently Krakatoa are some examples of big eruptions. How do they stack up to this pending disaster?
Looks like Akrotiri was evacuated before the eruption so they had advanced warning of the disaster.Don't book your hotel rooms in Tasmania yet my Yamato brethren!
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They'll be able to grow really awesome tomatoes in Nebraska.
If by awesome, you really mean THIS!
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Is there some new evidence that Yellowstone is close?
There won't be until it actually blows itself up or gets very close to it. Volcanos aren't on an Old Faithful style clock. Judging by it's past eruption, we're not outside the possibility of it going off in our time. Fujiyama on the other hand does not fit the profile of a supervolcano, but that's not saying that it won't do a lot of damage when it does go off though.
Don't worry too much about your family. If Yellowstone goes up, it'll be taking you out as well. It'll just take longer.
Except that this whole thread was started by reports of a pressure buildup in Mt Fuji that suggests an eruption is close. Since CJ said "Yellowstone will go first", I was wondering if there were similar indications. I haven't seen reports of any.
Fuji is just a normal volcano. That's bad enough, but not "take the island of Japan with it" bad.
Yellowstone is pretty much game over. Rocks fall, everybody dies.
The GSA (Geological Society of America) just printed a paper on this in their fall issue.
Summary - We have no f@*&ing clue when Yellowstone will blow. All evidence points to Yellowstone having blown up previously with no warning and no pressure buildup. So it might and it might not. But if it does it'll probably be like these three minor eruptions it's had in the past 500k years and just devastate the region rather than the world.
I definitely vote Fuji blows first. The Great Dragon Ryumyo is sleepin' in. I want my Shadowrun future.
Can't the end of the world wait until I die? :( or at least get a lot of home campaigns done? I hope yellowstone doesn't erupt, I live in Idaho.
On the other hand, we've advanced in technology so much. We can send a man into space, make a atom smasher, make VTOLS, and heaven knows what else, but we are still worried about volcanic activity? I thought we would at least have something to stop it.
Can't the end of the world wait until I die? :( or at least get a lot of home campaigns done? I hope yellowstone doesn't erupt, I live in Idaho.
On the other hand, we've advanced in technology so much. We can send a man into space, make a atom smasher, make VTOLS, and heaven knows what else, but we are still worried about volcanic activity? I thought we would at least have something to stop it.
Like drilling to the center of the earth and setting off a series of nukes?
Like drilling to the center of the earth and setting off a series of nukes?
What movie are we going off of? I'm thinking Austin Powers, and I'm thinking that's a horrible idea.
Like drilling to the center of the earth and setting off a series of nukes?Can't the end of the world wait until I die? :( or at least get a lot of home campaigns done? I hope yellowstone doesn't erupt, I live in Idaho.
On the other hand, we've advanced in technology so much. We can send a man into space, make a atom smasher, make VTOLS, and heaven knows what else, but we are still worried about volcanic activity? I thought we would at least have something to stop it.
That movie was bad and you should feel bad.
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So, what you guys are all saying is that there's a chance either Yellowstone or Japan could blow up and kill you.
Even though we've known this already from since before I was born.
So, basically, there's a reasonably good chance I could die sometime in the next year or so because of that.
I ask you,...
What's the difference between you or me dying in the next year or so because of a mega-eruption and dying in the next year or so from a car crash? Either way you are dead. Either way I am dead.
Now that Earthdawn is officially separted from Shadowrun, it's future should be Scourge Free, unless we elect a future President with the surname Menethil.As long as I'm good and dead before the Scourge comes back, I'm all for it..
I definitely vote Fuji blows first. The Great Dragon Ryumyo is sleepin' in. I want my Shadowrun future.
Boooo.
Well that's about the only thing that made Shadowrun interesting to me :-/
So the scary thing I heard about recently has to do with the realignment of the earth's magnetic poles. Part of the process is an expansion and adjustment of the core and mantle. If the mantle expands it could basically make all volcanoes erupt at the same time and put enough C02 into the air to kill us all off.
What's the difference between you or me dying in the next year or so because of a mega-eruption and dying in the next year or so from a car crash? Either way you are dead. Either way I am dead.
Car crash can be better avoided: Don't drive. Live away from roads. Move to a more rural location. Sleep on an upper story of your house, or in a basement. Put a stone or metal wall around your yard. Etc. etc. etc. Point being, there are things we can do, as human beings, to stop, avoid, or mitigate it.
If a mega-volcano goes off, the best thing we can do is pray it's not bad enough to knock us back to prehistory, have the good luck to be in a good location for surviving the fallout (which we really can't predict in advance), and hope that the eruption doesn't set off any secondary volcanic activity that screws up whatever contingency we have planned.
It makes us very small in comparison and severely limits the things we can do to protect ourselves. A car crash does not.