Whips...what up wit dat?

[Booksy]

I'm currently building a whip focused character, a Half-Orc, who will be taking the alt-race City Raised:

APG wrote:

Half-orcs with this trait know little of their orc ancestry and were raised among humans and other half-orcs in a large city. City-raised half-orcs are proficient with whips and longswords, and receive a +2 racial bonus on Knowledge (local) checks.

to gain whip proficiency. I was planning on some 2WF action, but was surprised to find whip wasn't a light weapon, yet Scorpioin Whip is and does lethal damage, does more damage (1d4 vs 1d3), doesn't have any restrictions involving my foes AC and counts as a 'performance' weapon. They're both Exotics, yet one is so superior to the other, was there a mis-print here?

To further add to my confusion, Scorpion Whip's Weapon's Features states:

UC wrote:

performance (plus disarm, reach, and trip if you are proficient with whip.).

making it sound to me like its not even a seperate proficiency, that being able to use a whip will let me use this one too penalty free. What am I reading wrong here?

[blackbloodtroll]

Nothing.

One drawback, is that you cannot two hand a scorpion whip for extra damage.

[martryn]

I'm not sure what that part about using it as a whip means. Is that only referring to feats that affect the whip? I mean, the scorpion whip isn't a reach weapon. Does this mean you can use it as a reach weapon... as a whip? Confused.

I think this means that if you find a scorpion whip, but are proficient with whips, you can pretend the scorpion whip is a whip, but can't use it as a scorpion whip. If you're proficient with scorpion whips, but not regular whips, you can only use the scorpion whip as a scorpion whip, which means that it doesn't have reach, disarm, trip, etc like the whip has.

I guess if you were proficient with them both you could just use it however you like, but that's either two feats, or a specific class / race plus a feat.

[blackbloodtroll]

Yeah, it was discussed here too.

[martryn]

So one proficiency takes care of both weapons, however you have to have the right weapon to use the properties of said weapon?

So you still have to have a whip to have the reach and disarm, etc properties.
You have to have a scorpion whip to deal lethal damage.

[blackbloodtroll]

Also discussed here.

[drayen]

martryn wrote:

So one proficiency takes care of both weapons, however you have to have the right weapon to use the properties of said weapon?

So you still have to have a whip to have the reach and disarm, etc properties.
You have to have a scorpion whip to deal lethal damage.

Whip Mastery, Improved Whip Mastery and Greater Whip Mastery

All in Ultimate Combat

[blackbloodtroll]

Also, there is the Deadly enchantment.

[Booksy]

Ah, thanks blackblood for the links, that did help clear alot of stuff up. Think I'll shelve this idea until PFS has something a little more concrete, I'd hate to approach a table and 'cause trouble with having to rules lawyer.