Celestial Servant Spell Resistance / Smite


Rules Questions

Scarab Sages

2 people marked this as FAQ candidate.

I'm building a druid with Celestial Servant from the ARG, and I came up with an issue with applying the Celestial Template. It says the affected creature gains SR equal to the creature's CR+5. What's the CR of an animal companion? I know, I know, they don't have a CR... class features don't have CR. So what to do? I'd like this in a PFS game, so a ruling that works there is particularly important. Might be FAQ worthy - I think it is.

It would also be wonderful to get a dev comment on the whole celestial/fiendish template smite evil ability and if it functions like the paladins ability. I've scoured through the forums, and no official word could I find. Seems like player consensus is that it does not, but considering it's a simple abbreviated template instead of a full one like half-celestial, it might be an oversight. Probably not, but would be great for PFS games to have official word.


It's not just an abbreviated Smite Evil. It's a completely different one.

The Exchange

Replace CR with druid level so SR is your druid level+5 as for how smite works its...companion's Cha bonus to hit and HD for damage...nothing more

Scarab Sages

The entry is abbreviated compared to other templates. It could very well be an entirely different ability as most seem to think, or it could be the same ability paraphrased. I'm leaning towards it being different than a paladins smite, but official word would be nice as there is some ambiguity. I know there was the issue with hide in plain sight different between two classes, when the intent was for them to be the same (FAQ'd I think) - this might have just been a carry over from 3.5 as was that issue.

@Nerfherder - That makes sense in regards to SR, and in a home game I'd go with that. Wondering what official rules would be for PFS. I'd probably get yelled at for posting this rules question in the PFS forum though, as these rulings shouldn't be different between organized play and home games short of house rules.

Grand Lodge

Note, the feat improves your Animal Companion's BAB.

Scarab Sages

Wow, if you are right blackbloodtroll, and you change out the rules for animal companions to follow magical beast instead - that means that not only does it gain a full BAB, vs 3/4, but it also gains d10 HP instead of d8 HP. Has this been brought up anywhere before?

Scarab Sages

James Jacobs rules that this isn't the case. I'm going to ask him about the SR thing though, and see if I can get him to comment on the smite evil thing too.

Grand Lodge

I started a discussion here.

Scarab Sages

Thanks blackbloodtroll, that helps! This feat seems to have a fair amount of confusion around it.

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