ninja and rogue


Rules Questions

Liberty's Edge

Is it possible too take a level of rogue and all others ninja... i dont want to double my sneak attack which is what most think but i am curious

Grand Lodge

balderdash wrote:
Is it possible too take a level of rogue and all others ninja... i dont want to double my sneak attack which is what most think but i am curious

Ninja is an alternate class to the rogue, so you can't take both.

What did you have in mind, if not stacking sneak attack?


No. Ninja is an alternate class of Rogue. Just like with archetypes, it isn't actually a separate class, and can't be used to multiclass with itself. You can't be a Rogue 1 / Ninja 19 any more than you could be a Rogue (Rake) 1 / Rogue (Poisoner) 19.

Liberty's Edge

I wanted the d8 sneak attack from rogue eveything else ninja since i using a smaller character i wanted bigger sneak

Grand Lodge

Where is the 1d8 sneak attack coming from?
If it's a Rogue Talent, then Ninjas can take those.


It's probably the dagger archetype that grants d8s when using daggers but d4 for any other weapon.


blackbloodtroll wrote:

Where is the 1d8 sneak attack coming from?

If it's a Rogue Talent, then Ninjas can take those.

Two sources:

Knife Master:
A knife master focuses her ability to deal sneak attack damage with daggers and similar weapons to such a degree that she can deal more sneak attack damage with those weapons at the expense of sneak attacks with other weapons. When she makes a sneak attack with a dagger, kerambit, kukri, punching daggers, starknife, or swordbreaker dagger, she uses d8s to roll sneak attack damage instead of d6s. For sneak attacks with all other weapons, she uses d4s instead of d6s.

This ability is identical in all other ways to sneak attack, and supplements that ability.


Skulking Slayer:
At 3rd level, when a skulking slayer charges and makes a sneak attack with a two-handed weapon, she rolls d8s instead of d6s for her sneak attack damage.

This ability replaces trap sense +1 and +4.


Ninjas could get it, but I'm horribly confused on archetypes on alternate classes. I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Knife Master in this case.

(Me, I'm playing a Skulking Slayer/Scout in PFS.)

Grand Lodge

Alternate classes can take archetypes, as long as all the class abilities changed/replaced are still there to do so.


offcially no a rogue can't take ninja levels, but it can be house ruled so that they are considered two different classes.

that all said, A ninja can't take rogue talents without taking the ninja trick rogue trick

a rogue cant take a ninja trick without taking the rogue talen: ninja trick.

Or at the least that is my understanding

on the otherhand you could make a killer shadow dancer with shadow clone, that ghost walk and the better form of shadow clone.....

Grand Lodge

Having them be different classes, will make things difficult.

You can get d8 sneak with claws/claw blades if you are a Catfolk, or a Human or Aasamir with the Racial Heritage feat.


hehehehehe

true to an extent.

but its all for flavor, and Blackbloodtroll as we all know, pathfidner does not really emphasize on multiclassing, and to actually pull of a ninja rogue, the rogue will need to get the ki pool feat/talent

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