Krico |
So I'm playing my first caster, and I'm trying to find the rules on what spells require touch attacks. I figure anything that says 'touch' requires a melee touch attack, and I've kind of inferred that anything that targets based on a ray requires a ranged touch attack. Are there any other guidelines? Or am I off?
Krico |
Another good indicator is if the spell is an offensive spell and dosen't have a saving throw, such spell invariable require an attack roll, with magic missile being the obvious black sheep.
Most spell will say if a ranged or melee touch attack is required.
So Ill Omen from the Witch spell list would require a touch attack since it doesn't have a save? The reason I ask is because it's a pretty potent effect for a first level spell, but the spell doesn't say anything about it one way or the other.
Phasics |
Phasics wrote:So Ill Omen from the Witch spell list would require a touch attack since it doesn't have a save? The reason I ask is because it's a pretty potent effect for a first level spell, but the spell doesn't say anything about it one way or the other.Another good indicator is if the spell is an offensive spell and dosen't have a saving throw, such spell invariable require an attack roll, with magic missile being the obvious black sheep.
Most spell will say if a ranged or melee touch attack is required.
It's not a potent effect, it forces them to reroll the next d20 roll they make, then the spell is discharged. at 5th level twice, at 10th 3 times at 15th 4 times and 20th 5 times. Considering that your average fighter attack routine is at least 5 attacks this effect would make him reroll each attack and the spell would be spent.
This is no where near as potent as the Misfortune Hex which does give a save but persists on ALL d20 rolls for the length of the Hex.
As to your question no Il Omen requires no attack roll and gives no save but its mind effecting which makes many creature types immune.
chaoseffect |
I figure anything that says 'touch' requires a melee touch attack, and I've kind of inferred that anything that targets based on a ray requires a ranged touch attack. Are there any other guidelines? Or am I off?
Pretty much got it down, though there are some spells that you don't have to roll at all for and the enemies just have to save against. Just read the spell descriptions and you'll do fine :D
Krico |
actually a great use of Il Omen would be a swift Il Omen followed by either A Hex or Spell so they have to reroll their save and take the worse result
This. I'm playing an Dual Cursed Oracle and I have quicken spell, as well as spell focus and greater spell focus for necromancy. We just hit level 11. So ya, ill omen + make a dc 22 save against bestow curse, roll twice and take the worst. Considering it's got about a 50-70% chance of sticking to anyone in the party that's not a favored will save, I like those odds.