Can you have magical monk punches without an amulet of mighty fists?

[triplettb]

Is there any clearly legal weapon/covering that allows a monk to still get his heightened unarmed strike damage and have the ability to magically enhance his punches? I cannot find a clear answer on this issue. I have found conflicting opinions on gauntlets, brass knuckles and the cestus. I am looking for an alternative to the amulet of mighty fists that only needs to work for punches.

For means of this post please ignore questions of weapon proficiency, flurry of blows or interference with other monk class features.

Thanks for your assistance.

[Carbon D. Metric]

At level 4 your unarmed strikes count as magical as long as you have at least 1 ki left in your pool.

as for enhancing the attack, the only thing I can think of is a racial bonus like Suli get, or perhaps being a Monk of the Four Winds, who eventually get elemental attacks.

[concerro]

Nope. That is why some people are not happy with the monk. The overpriced, under performing amulet of mighty fist is the only way to go. We are hoping for a punch only option if they do revise the monk though.

Gauntlets, Brass Knuckles, and the Cestus don't work.

One of the devs put the statement out a while back that those weapons are light weapons and don't really do unarmed strike damage.

[StreamOfTheSky]

Greater Magic Fang/Weapon spells both work.

If your DM is nice, he'll see PF's repeated attempts to rob the monk of an affordable magical weapon option and just let you enhance gauntlet, brass knucks, or something, and use it as an unarmed strike.
Paizo has decided that monks being able to function is detrimental to game balance. You'll need the pity of others to get by, whether it be the DM or the party spellcaster.

[concerro]

Carbon D. Metric wrote:

At level 4 your unarmed strikes count as magical as long as you have at least 1 ki left in your pool.

I think he means enhance them such as add +1, +2, and so on to them.

[Carbon D. Metric]

Size bonuses are awesome, and so would a wand of lead blades, since your unarmed attacks are considered manufactured weapons that bumps it up some more.

Enlarge person, and Monk's Robes.

[The Great Carbuncle]

In the APG there is a weapon called brass knuckles or some such thing it allows the monk to use there damage and can be enchanted/made of special material.

http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/advanced/advancedGear.html

[Serisan]

Khadorian_Mother_land wrote:

In the APG there is a weapon called brass knuckles or some such thing it allows the monk to use there damage and can be enchanted/made of special material.

http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/advanced/advancedGear.html

This was errata'd to no longer function as advertised.

[Lobolusk]

you used to be able to not any more

http://paizo.com/store/games/roleplayingGames/p/pathfinderRPG/paizo/pathfin derCompanion/v5748btpy8dmf/discuss&page=12#550

[wraithstrike]

Lobolusk wrote:

you used to be able to not any more

http://paizo.com/store/games/roleplayingGames/p/pathfinderRPG/paizo/pathfin derCompanion/v5748btpy8dmf/discuss&page=12#550

linkified

[The Great Carbuncle]

This Makes me sad.... so apparently not

[Mabven the OP healer]

You guys must really have hated the AoMF in 3.5, because it was much worse then.

[john ralls]

Lobolusk wrote:

you used to be able to not any more

http://paizo.com/store/games/roleplayingGames/p/pathfinderRPG/paizo/pathfin derCompanion/v5748btpy8dmf/discuss&page=12#550

UC has the Emei Piercer, which states can be used with unarmed strikes and converts your damage to piercing otherwise everything else is the same, would that not work?

[The Great Carbuncle]

No You must not be using your own body to get your monk dmg is the final call from what I read

[blackbloodtroll]

Emei Piercer is now just a light weapon.
My question, is does it still allow spellcasting?

[StreamOfTheSky]

Mabven the OP healer wrote:

You guys must really have hated the AoMF in 3.5, because it was much worse then.

Yes, we did.

I've been requesting an alternative priced at the rate of other weapons for over half a decade now.

Of course, 3E eventually redeemed itself with the Scorpion Kama from Magic Item Compendium. It was a very inexpensive magic item (and MIC explicitly said you could pay to add enhancements to unique weapons so they don't go obsolete) that was a kama, but allowed you to use your monk unarmed damage dice instead of the kama's normal damage.

[Mikaze]

This heads into homebrew territory, but if you can find a GM that will let you use one of the Vow of Poverty variants that includes self-enhancement, cherish him/her.

[triplettb]

Thanks for all the input. It now seems clear what the intent is at this point, regardless of whether it has been clarified in print.