Damage for attacks with magic stone


Rules Questions


A few questions about the magic stone spell:

1a. The spell states that the user of the spell makes a normal ranged attack, either by hurling or slinging the effected pebbles (against AC). Normally you apply your Strength modifier to thrown weapons and sling bullets, however the spell concludes by saying that the damage of each stone is 1d6+1 (or, double that, 2d6+2, against undead). Is that damage listed as set damage, reglardless of your Strength modifier, or intended to be like weapon damage dice, where you apply your Strength modifier since "...The user of the stones makes a normal ranged attack..." and you are attacking with a thrown weapon?

1b. If you do, in fact, apply your Strength modifier to damage with magic stone, do you also double your Strength modifier against undead? For example; is it 2 * (1d6 + 1 + Strength modifier) or 2d6 + 2 + Strength modifier?

2. "...If slung, treat them as sling bullets (range increment 50 feet). The spell gives them a +1 enhancement bonus on attack and damage rolls..." If you attack with magic stone via a sling to get the increased range increment is that statement only in regards to range and the spell does the listed damage, or, since you treat them as sling bullets, do they do 1d4 + 1 (+ Strength modifier, perhaps, see above) and you trade power for range?


Anyone?

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Since it says you attack by throwing or slinging them, the normal rules for such attacks would apply: you add your STR bonus.

For the same reason, your STR bonus would not be doubled against undead.


That is what I suspected, bit was unsure since it seemed to have a specific damage listed which omitted "+ Str modifier." Thank you for your response.

Grand Lodge RPG Superstar 2015 Top 32, RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32

The Elusive Jackalope wrote:
That is what I suspected, bit was unsure since it seemed to have a specific damage listed which omitted "+ Str modifier." Thank you for your response.

You're welcome. :)

Remember that spells and abilities won't always mention Core rules that will probably interact with them, because on the occasions when they try to be helpful and do so, people have a tendency to think it's an additional rule rather than a helpful reminder, and therefore think they still get to do XYZ even in a circumstance where that rule doesn't apply, "because the spell says so".

So in most cases, if a spell or ability seems to leave out a reference to a related rule (rather than explicitly contradict it), you're usually safe to assume such rules function as normal. :)

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