I don't really understand the question...
You have a paladin that wants to take levels in ranger? Are you playing pathfinder rules, if yes there are no rules against this? Are you using a forgotten realms setting? More info on his chosen diety and paladin code would help.
Details details details my friend, we are not all setting encyclopedias.
From a rule point of view, I think he can multiclass freely (I glanced the paladin class and saw no restriction on this)
From a fluff perspective I can't see what's wrong: especially if he choose undead or evil outsiders as favored enemy I see rangers and paladins as very similar. The fact that he took "a level in ranger" means nothing for the character, he simply acquired some abilities that he didn't have the level before, like one always do when gaining a new level: he won't start dressing with leaves because of a level of ranger...
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As far as I know, there is nothing in the standard Pathfinder rules that would prevent a Paladin from multiclassing into a Ranger.
If you want to restrict it based on your own particular game, you can of course. I'm afraid I don't have enough information on the campaign setting and adventure you're playing to be able to offer advice on that.
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I want to stress that I don't think most people say to others "I'm a paladin, what class are you?"
Class names and abilities are all outside of the roleplaying world. There are warriors who are empowered by their deity, and there are warriors who have mastered combat against specific types of enemies because of special training. There is no reason why a warrior who is empowered by his deity could not seek out special training against a specific foe, and at the same time learn some things about nature and the world at large.
Should a paladin multiclass?There are a couple significant errors on the sheet. In particular, the character should not have 7th or 8th level spells for Sorceror.
That's not an error. As a member of a spellcasting guild with over 40 fame, he gets Esoteric Training (Inner Sea Magic), an ability that grants a +3 bonus to the caster level of one class (sorcerer in his case), and +1 bonus to the caster level of another (oracle for him) provided it doesn't go over his character level. Said ability SPECIFICALLY STATES that this also increases his spells known and spells per day to match.
No error.
However, you said "errors," plural. What other alleged errors did you find? I pride myself on having clean, error free character sheets.
I would not allow it at my table. I always understood a paladin to be the epitome of everything humanity strives for. They revere not a single god but rather a concept to which they stay true after starting down that road; a paladin multiclassing means becoming a fighter without the bonus feats.
Also, I do not understand the fluff behind it. But to each their own, I guess.
Ruyan.
I would not allow it at my table. I always understood a paladin to be the epitome of everything humanity strives for. They revere not a single god but rather a concept to which they stay true after starting down that road; a paladin multiclassing means becoming a fighter without the bonus feats.
Also, I do not understand the fluff behind it. But to each their own, I guess.
Ruyan.
How is Shioji not a paladin in every sense of the word? Just because he utilizes spells instead of a sword doesn't mean he isn't an instrument for good and justice in the world.
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In all published campaign settings, Paladins follow dieties. They may have the option to revere primal forces instead, but it is assumed that a Paladin is a follower of a particular Power. Well-detailed campaign settings, like the Forgotten Realms, actually have Paladin orders and slightly different goals for Paladins who venerate different dieties. In a home campaign, you can run the Paladin rules differently, of course. However, choosing a second class would not intrinsically violate the Paladin's code. Only acting in an evil or chaotic way does that.
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In all published campaign settings, Paladins follow dieties. They may have the option to revere primal forces instead, but it is assumed that a Paladin is a follower of a particular Power. Well-detailed campaign settings, like the Forgotten Realms, actually have Paladin orders and slightly different goals for Paladins who venerate different dieties. In a home campaign, you can run the Paladin rules differently, of course. However, choosing a second class would not intrinsically violate the Paladin's code. Only acting in an evil or chaotic way does that.
Nitpick: Performing an evil act violates the paladin code, but performing a chaotic act does not. Only by ceasing to be lawful does a paladin violate the code; one chaotic act will not unmake a paladin.
Should a paladin multiclass?That's not so much saying paladins should multiclass as it is saying casters with good charisma should dip paladin and get 3 caster levels for free if the DM will let them.
Shioji had to work for YEARS earning the trust and esteem of the spellcasters guild all the while keeping it from coming into conflict with his religious beliefs and paladin code. It sure as heck wasn't FREE.
That's like saying "From a build-only perspective, though, playing a fighter over a commoner is a spectacular increase in power for no investment." It's not an increase in power. It's the expected course of the game.
It's also one of the few things that allows multiclass characters to even work well. He's also missing out on effectively being a 20th-level sorcerer for his bloodline ability, which among other things, means he's missing out on his captsone.
Oh, he also gets his Charisma to Initiative, and as healing for himself when he uses his lay on hands ability upon someone else (coincidentally healing him more than his patient).
Turgan is a paladin of Lathander (half-elf). Level 14, has a follower (cleric of Lathander, level 12) and now it seems he is becoming the leader of a nation.
My main intent was to get more skills & skillpoints (to become better out of combat). I would not take anymore levels of paladin but stay ranger the rest of the way.
I have to admit I also like full BAB, +2 fort, +2 ref, the weapon style feats. So the decision is more based on crunch. I know that I lose sth. too. But my damage is high enough already, imo.
He has a wisdom score of 14 (no enhancement until now).
I dont want another companion, so I thought about the guide archetype.
Lathander as a god is rather the pragmatic good type (neutral good) and a lover of beauty, life and bad taste (pink & orange garments, lousy architecture...).
I thought about Inquisitor, too. But Turgan is just not that inquistive.
If you are intending to increase out of combat abilities, why not go bard? It has better synergy with Charisma and better out of combat abilities.
You also get +2 Ref and Will and all of theses cool abilities: Bardic knowledge, bardic performance, cantrips,countersong, distraction, fascinate, inspire courage +1.
Not a bad idea. Indeed, not bad at all. Should have thought of that, just did not cross my mind when I thought of Turgan. Heck, I even built a dervish dancer bard 12/pally 2 a while ago!
Hm... it was probably the light armor thing. Will Turgan become one of the big party of mithral breastplate fans?
We will see.
Had a great time with a Paladin 9/Ranger 10 of Ehlonna in SCAP converted to PFRPG. The classes complimented each other well. It took a while to catch up to the party, but by the end the wait was worth it.
I have been toying with the idea of a pally 10/monk 10 (master of many styles) build but haven't nailed it to my satisfaction yet. The idea of an "empty hand" paladin intrigues me, though. This would be more of a defensive character in play, I think, making use of the vital strike line and spring attack (note that in our home game we allow vital strike with spring attack).
I need to keep working at the concept.
That's like saying "From a build-only perspective, though, playing a fighter over a commoner is a spectacular increase in power for no investment." It's not an increase in power. It's the expected course of the game.
It's also one of the few things that allows multiclass characters to even work well. He's also missing out on effectively being a 20th-level sorcerer for his bloodline ability, which among other things, means he's missing out on his captsone.
Oh, he also gets his Charisma to Initiative, and as healing for himself when he uses his lay on hands ability upon someone else (coincidentally healing him more than his patient).
I need to ask: how on Golarion is he getting his CHA bonus to initiative?
I need to ask: how on Golarion is he getting his CHA bonus to initiative?
His Noble Scion (scion of war) feat.
O_O I can't believe I've never noticed that feat before. Henceforth, any sorcerer/oracle/bard/paladin I make will have that feat!
O_O I can't believe I've never noticed that feat before. Henceforth, any sorcerer/oracle/bard/paladin I make will have that feat!
Yeah, it is pretty amazing for such characters.
Lets not make it about RD's characters, the OP was obviously asking for a different kind of paladin not a sorceror with an appetite for cheese.
The FR campagn source book specifically lists some exceptions for paladins making multi-class easier than the norm, because multi-class was restricted in 3.X, no such thing exists in PF. There are more reasons to stay single class though, from an optimizing PoV he might want to consider this carefully.