Huh, Christmas? People plan for that much in the future?
I know about that, I checked plane tickets from Poland to UK a few times for my mother. There can be much greater difference than 100%.
You can also usually know what you're doing for stuff like Christmas pretty far in advance.
Awesome news about Minnesota. Seems like there's more and more strides for same sex marriage every day.
Now, if the immigration bills in the US manage to keep the language about green cards for same sex partners that will be huge for Americans.
|
The first official same-sex marriage in France will take place in a little more than one hour. I wish those two guys an undisturbed ceremony and a lot of happiness after that.
And I am now wondering what the divorce rate will be for same-sex couples compared to heterosexual ones. And when we will see the first same-sex divorce.
Texas. Even if we start leaning blue thanks to the Hispanic vote, those same Hispanics are not likely to be any more in favor for equal rights.
I acknowledge that I am grossly generalizing Hispanics, but as a block, they tend to be Catholic.
I don't know culturally what Texan Catholic hispanics think of gays in general, but Catholicism alone won't necessarily influence that--it can depend WIDELY on what is locally preached. For every Catholic I've seen rant against gays, I've also seen ones like my aunt, a Franciscan nun, who are generally more about gay rights and egalitarianism in general.
Again, I stumbled into a gross generalization. My apologies.
No worries. And you may have a point, but I'm just not sure how much can be assumed.
Black raven, the first same sex divorce already happened, I'm not sure when, but there are same sex divorces. In NY, one of the first couples to marry after it was legalized there divorced, for example.
The statistics are low, but that is in part because they are hard to track.
Unfortunately, people are people, and love is love, and things don't always end happily ever after.
|
I've read of some anecdotal instances where same-sex couples have gotten married specifically to be able to divorce. The fact is, separating property, assigning child custody, working out alimony, etc, is a messy legal quagmire if you were never married. There have been some instances of couples who were in the process of splitting up getting married just to have a divorce for the legal protection it offers in their split.
In other words, same-sex couples actually have a need for the legal protections of divorce just as much as we have a need for the legal protections of marriage.
|
|
Black raven, the first same sex divorce already happened, I'm not sure when, but there are same sex divorces. In NY, one of the first couples to marry after it was legalized there divorced, for example.
The statistics are low, but that is in part because they are hard to track.
Unfortunately, people are people, and love is love, and things don't always end happily ever after.
I should have clarified "in France" ;-)
We're still new at this, you know
I've read of some anecdotal instances where same-sex couples have gotten married specifically to be able to divorce. The fact is, separating property, assigning child custody, working out alimony, etc, is a messy legal quagmire if you were never married. There have been some instances of couples who were in the process of splitting up getting married just to have a divorce for the legal protection it offers in their split.
In other words, same-sex couples actually have a need for the legal protections of divorce just as much as we have a need for the legal protections of marriage.
That's it! It's the final proof that gays are destroying sanctity of marriage!
Every time I hear the phrase "sanctity of marriage", I cringe a little. There's nothing sacred about marriage, especially with no-fault divorce. It used to be hard to get a divorce. Nowadays, you can get married on Monday and be divorced by Tuesday. What's so sacred about that? : /
| 1 person marked this as a favorite. |
I keep thinking of the Wife of Bath and how it's easy(ier) to maintain the sanctity of lifelong monogamous marriage when the average life expectancy is 43 as opposed to 76.
|
|
Every time I hear the phrase "sanctity of marriage", I cringe a little. There's nothing sacred about marriage, especially with no-fault divorce. It used to be hard to get a divorce. Nowadays, you can get married on Monday and be divorced by Tuesday. What's so sacred about that? : /
Actually, there have been many periods in history where it was not hard at all to get a divorce. The Roman Empire is one such time. The French Revolution is another.
Every time I hear the phrase "sanctity of marriage", I cringe a little. There's nothing sacred about marriage, especially with no-fault divorce. It used to be hard to get a divorce. Nowadays, you can get married on Monday and be divorced by Tuesday. What's so sacred about that? : /Actually, there have been many periods in history where it was not hard at all to get a divorce. The Roman Empire is one such time. The French Revolution is another.
Yeah, but there were no claims of sanctity of marriage involved. Marriage was a legal contract for both.
|
|
Yeah, but there were no claims of sanctity of marriage involved. Marriage was a legal contract for both.Every time I hear the phrase "sanctity of marriage", I cringe a little. There's nothing sacred about marriage, especially with no-fault divorce. It used to be hard to get a divorce. Nowadays, you can get married on Monday and be divorced by Tuesday. What's so sacred about that? : /Actually, there have been many periods in history where it was not hard at all to get a divorce. The Roman Empire is one such time. The French Revolution is another.
Way I understand it, in the Roman Empire it started as a religious thing and evolved into a legal contract. Similar to what we see these days.
Way I understand it, in the Roman Empire it started as a religious thing and evolved into a legal contract. Similar to what we see these days.
Romans held legal contracts sacred. Not that it ever prevented them from breaking them.
IIRC the religious aspect was mainly concerning older form of marriage (cum manu marriage) focusing on selecting auspicious day for the wedding, making proper offerings to acquire favor of the gods and properly appease family deities of both families - wife's for taking away member of their family - and husband's to accept the wife in the new family. There were no modern monotheist view that the state of marriage is institution created by the god(s). Instead it was a ceremony that made the wife member of her husband's family in ritual and legal sense.
Later sine manu marriage did not involved ritual transfer of wife from her fathers family to her husband - she ritually remained member of her birth family so there were no need for the religious ceremony.
| 4 people marked this as a favorite. |
Oh my god oh my god oh my god oh my god oh my god...
I think the cosmos has found a way to push me past my irrational (but extant for real reasons) fear of biphobia amongst the LG community and actually make me go to a Pride event and wave my flag with the rest of them.
Oh my god oh my god oh my god oh my god oh my god...
I think the cosmos has found a way to push me past my irrational (but extant for real reasons) fear of biphobia amongst the LG community and actually make me go to a Pride event and wave my flag with the rest of them.
DOOOO EEET DQ!!!!!
Oh my god oh my god oh my god oh my god oh my god...
I think the cosmos has found a way to push me past my irrational (but extant for real reasons) fear of biphobia amongst the LG community and actually make me go to a Pride event and wave my flag with the rest of them.
Oh, awesome. Go, go! The Geek Pride float here last year, with cosplay galore, finally got some of my friends to march, and they had a great time. (Turned out at the afterparty, the bigger divide was between female-identified and male-identified geeks. :-/)
(Also, I didn't realize orientation was an alignment! I guess that explains the Sandpoint paladin...)
Tell it like it is!
And what does this have to do with LGBT gamers?
You don't approve of marriage in general, that's your lookout, but if people want to get married, then that's their decision and it should be respected.
My bad. I thought it was funny and, in the past, Ms. Slaad has enjoyed my links of female soul performers.
I really don't have a problem with people getting married.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure Doodlebug meant no harm. Even though I'm not looking to get married anytime soon, it'd be awfully nice to have any such union recognized on the Federal and state levels throughout the U.S. If Ms. Laura Lee and others see wedlock as a "shackles", at least they have the option of a recognized (hetero) marriage.
But the goblin does have a varied and discriminating choice in music. :)
Another Soul Sister weighing in on common pitfalls and obstacles to marital bliss.
| 1 person marked this as a favorite. |
Sorry. I may be experiencing a monthly serotonin dip common to women, and have not consumed enough chocolate to compensate, thus limiting the scope of my sense of humor.
| 1 person marked this as a favorite. |
S'all good. Many people find me obnoxious.
I may be experiencing one of my regular increases in cannabinoid receptor stimulation, which probably doesn't help.
:)
What kind of music do you like, Ms. DQ?
| 1 person marked this as a favorite. |
LOL.
I like all of the music. But... okay, maybe it's easiest to do it this way:
My Pandora channels are
Indigo Girls and other folk-rock
Katy Perry, Pink, and other contemporary pop divas
Mates of State
What I call "Radio New Vegas" which is swing, blues and crooners from the 30s, 40s, and 50s (Dean Martin, Billie Holliday, Ella Fitzgerald)
"World Music" pref. dance music from the Middle East and Southeast Asia
My Life with the Thrill Kill Kult
I also like New Age stuff like Enya; I like classical (specifically baroque); I like rock pretty much from any era, disco is a guilty pleasure. I like 60s folk rock. I like oldies. I like New Wave. I actually did like the soul/funk you linked to, just questioned its timeliness.
I don't like... some country. (But I do like oldskool country like Patsy Cline.) I don't like elevator music. I don't like canned sounding stuff. I don't care for some lite pop.
Here's a song, about one woman enjoying her independence: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIb-kebUQLg
Thanks, Mogwen! So very true! We love to put ourselves in those boxes and don't always fit so well.
Nice, Doodlebug, I hadn't heard that one before!
| 7 people marked this as a favorite. |
Guys guys guys. I went to the Capital Pride parade and had so much fun. Everyone was so nice and friendly of course. And there were drag queens in superhero costumes, which for some reason is just the most awesome thing ever. (If you didn't click on the link above, the theme of the festival was "Unleash the Superhero in You" so there were lots of superhero costumes, both of RL superheroes and people in rainbow capes and such. Of course this tickled both my queer heart and my geeky heart.)
Sadly, just as Lynda Carter's car passed, she turned to talk to her companion in the car so I didn't get a good look or get to wave to her (amongst the other thousands of people trying to) but she was still like 20 feet away from me, which I am fangirl enough to be happy about. From what I saw of her, I'm guessing she's from the version of Amazons who were granted agelessness by Aphrodite. ;)
One thing that was really touching at the parade was that some of the loudest cheers for the floats and marchers that past were for the PFLAG groups and the churches that had LGBT clergy and married same sex couples.
There was only one very small group of religious right preachers at one corner of the park where the parade passed who were shouting the usual "repent or go to hell" stuff through a loudspeaker. They were utterly drowned out by the parade once it started, and they were a paltry few and rather anemic in their "ministry." The many pro-LGBT churches in the parade vastly outnumbered them and were vibrant and loving. I was bummed the local Friends meetings weren't in it, but as my sister joked, they were probably still in committee trying to work out what wording they wanted to put on their sign. (We are a strangely bureaucratic religious society at times.) This makes me also want to urge my own local meeting to march in our home city's parade too, so that's a project for the coming year (as it's much too late this year, as the local parade is next week).
| 1 person marked this as a favorite. |
...but as my sister joked, they were probably still in committee trying to work out what wording they wanted to put on their sign.
Ah. You're the religious world's version of the anarcho-syndicalists.
Guys guys guys. I went to the Capital Pride parade and had so much fun. Everyone was so nice and friendly of course. And there were drag queens in superhero costumes, which for some reason is just the most awesome thing ever. (If you didn't click on the link above, the theme of the festival was "Unleash the Superhero in You" so there were lots of superhero costumes, both of RL superheroes and people in rainbow capes and such. Of course this tickled both my queer heart and my geeky heart.)
Some friends of mine that I, alas, haven't kept up with.
Man, Maggie's lost some weight! I should get back in touch...
...but as my sister joked, they were probably still in committee trying to work out what wording they wanted to put on their sign.Ah. You're the religious world's version of the anarcho-syndicalists.
Lol. I am rusty on my schools of anarchy, but I think that sounds about right.
*sigh*
Polish nationalistic homophobes presented their "brilliance" and education level by publicly showing a large banner with the phrase "we want males and not f%$@" igniting a wave of comments about those homophobes coming out with real reasons for their hatred (repression) and about their functional illiteracy (in Polish illiteracy is analphabetyzm and illiterate person is called analphabeta - I don't think I have to explain what jokes followed) as they managed to make spelling error in the word "males" and failed to apply correctly plural form to the word "f**". As we say in Poland "Polska język, trudna język"
Additional catch is that the word they used in addition to being less than polite way of referring to male homosexuals also happens to be colloquial word for menstruation among women and due to the aforementioned grammar error the slogan they put on their banner means "we want males and not menstruation"... Yup. This tells a bit about Polish nationalist homophobes wits.
*sigh*
Polish nationalistic homophobes presented their "brilliance" and education level by publicly showing a large banner with the phrase "we want males and not f*+~" igniting a wave of comments about those homophobes coming out with real reasons for their hatred (repression) and about their functional illiteracy (in Polish illiteracy is analphabetyzm and illiterate person is called analphabeta - I don't think I have to explain what jokes followed) as they managed to make spelling error in the word "males" and failed to apply correctly plural form to the word "f%!". As we say in Poland "Polska język, trudna język"
Additional catch is that the word they used in addition to being less than polite way of referring to male homosexuals also happens to be colloquial word for menstruation among women and due to the aforementioned grammar error the slogan they put on their banner means "we want males and not menstruation"... Yup. This tells a bit about Polish nationalist homophobes wits.
Oh dear. That is hilarious and sad. And ancestrally, I am half Polish so... it makes me especially sad. (And hell yes, hard language. Of course I know about two phrases and a few food words, so obviously I am an expert.)
But then if the opposition's that idiotic, it gives bonus points for the other side, I hope!
(in Polish illiteracy is analphabetyzm and illiterate person is called analphabeta - I don't think I have to explain what jokes followed)
Trying to mix Polish words in English text leads to not exactly desired results. It should be analfabetyzm and analfabeta (there is no ph in Polish, we always use f) but habits of using English kicked in and wrote it basing it on English spelling of alphabet.
Maybe I should get to write in Polish more instead of trying to think more about writing in English... Nah, writing something for my blog has a higher priority!
I've been very inactive on the boards for a while but I've been lurking. Anyway, I want to leave this here. It seems rather significant.
I've been very inactive on the boards for a while but I've been lurking. Anyway, I want to leave this here. It seems rather significant.
The link doesn't seem to work for me.
Dear god, the page, she cannot be found!
Here you go: http://www.buzzfeed.com/chrisgeidner/head-of-group-that-had-aims-to-change- gays-issues-apology
Sorry, I thought it would work. Thanks Jessica.
I'm just glad you are alright. Health first, work second. I want you to be alive to take advantageof other opportunities.