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Meophist wrote:

Notices that there hasn't been any posts for a while...

So, uh, if you could, well, be straight, or cis-gender, or otherwise more "normal", would you?

I don't really know if I can answer this question myself.

No. I went through too much coming to terms with myself. After all of that I find that I'm happy being the way I am.


Meophist wrote:

Notices that there hasn't been any posts for a while...

So, uh, if you could, well, be straight, or cis-gender, or otherwise more "normal", would you?

I don't really know if I can answer this question myself.

I've never had any real desire to be. Being gay isn't the most fun thing in the world but being straight has never seemed desirable in itself. The only advantage I really see is that half the country would be less interested in interfering in my personal life.

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Ross Byers wrote:
I removed an offensive post.

Thank you.

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Meophist wrote:

Notices that there hasn't been any posts for a while...

So, uh, if you could, well, be straight, or cis-gender, or otherwise more "normal", would you?

I don't really know if I can answer this question myself.

Nope.

I have a family members that desperately wish I behaved more gender normatively, but they can wish all they like, I like who I am.

And I will add that's taken a lot of struggling in my life to get to a place where I can say "I like who I am." I'm sure these struggles will arise again.

Dark Archive

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber
Meophist wrote:

Notices that there hasn't been any posts for a while...

So, uh, if you could, well, be straight, or cis-gender, or otherwise more "normal", would you?

I don't really know if I can answer this question myself.

No, I am happy with who and what I am. I think all the non-bi people out there are just crazy for cutting themselves off from half of their potential fun. :)

Silver Crusade

Meophist wrote:

Notices that there hasn't been any posts for a while...

So, uh, if you could, well, be straight, or cis-gender, or otherwise more "normal", would you?

I don't really know if I can answer this question myself.

Nope. Maybe at a more insecure time in my life I might have wished such a thing, but not now.


Way back on April 30th, when describing a complex social situation, Ringtail wrote:
this post.

Wow.

Ringtail wrote:
Thoughts?

Yes. I'm going to keep reading the thread and see how / if this evolves.

-- Andy


lynora wrote:
Ringtail wrote:
Print off small signs and attach them to popsicle sticks. Then whenever you need to express an emotion be all like: "Wait! I've got something for this." Then dig through your backpack, satchel, purse, etc. until you find the one(s) you need and hold them up while talking.
I will admit to having seriously considered doing just that....but the people who I need it most with would just get pissed off by it. *sigh* People make no sense.

hehe. People.

"l'enfer, c'est les autres," "Hell is other people," or some-such.

I do concur, lynora, there are times an emoticon or a quick "LOL k thx bai" is better than a bunch of spoken words (or even typed ones).

I think you're correct though, the folks most in need of receiving feedback are the ones least likely to be open to it. :D

-- Andy

Grand Lodge

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I love that there's a thread for this! It will take me some time to catch up on all the posts.

As for myself, I identify as transgender. I'm not a big fan of labels but the one I identify with the most is crossdresser, as I like to go back and forth with which gender I present myself, though I most often present as a guy. The past few years have been very liberating for me as I've come out to my wife, family and friends. I could talk for hours about it but I'll keep it brief for now, heh.

Anyway, it's so nice to see a thread like this here and feel represented.


Andrew Tuttle wrote:
Way back on April 30th, when describing a complex social situation, Ringtail wrote:
this post.

Wow.

Ringtail wrote:
Thoughts?

Yes. I'm going to keep reading the thread and see how / if this evolves.

-- Andy

Well, I've been de-friended on FB and the (now-ex) player told the current GM via email (finally responding) that he wouldn't be associating with us.


Ringtail wrote:
Andrew Tuttle wrote:
Way back on April 30th, when describing a complex social situation, Ringtail wrote:
this post.

Wow.

Ringtail wrote:
Thoughts?

Yes. I'm going to keep reading the thread and see how / if this evolves.

-- Andy

Well, I've been de-friended on FB and the (now-ex) player told the current GM via email (finally responding) that he wouldn't be associating with us.

It doesn't sound like much of a loss, as cruel as it sounds. Ah well. More masturbating bunnies for the rest of us. You can keep the horny gay paratroopers though, I don't enjoy the erotic company of my fellow male.

Dark Archive

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber
Ringtail wrote:
Andrew Tuttle wrote:
Way back on April 30th, when describing a complex social situation, Ringtail wrote:
this post.

Wow.

Ringtail wrote:
Thoughts?

Yes. I'm going to keep reading the thread and see how / if this evolves.

-- Andy

Well, I've been de-friended on FB and the (now-ex) player told the current GM via email (finally responding) that he wouldn't be associating with us.

A shame but likely for the best in the long run. Sometimes people are just not meant to be friends. I find it far easier to find out ahead of time. Perhaps one day he will grow past this and become more accepting of other humans regardless of there sexual orientation.

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It's also better to find out now than have a fight in the middle of gaming session when everyone's involved. If he's not willing to communicate and move past things, there's not much you can do. As Dark Mistress says, hopefully as time passes he'll come around.


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Meophist wrote:

Notices that there hasn't been any posts for a while...

So, uh, if you could, well, be straight, or cis-gender, or otherwise more "normal", would you?

I don't really know if I can answer this question myself.

If this was retroactive timey-wimey reset, I would say that in this alternative universe where I was straight, my life would be vast magnitudes more pleasant.

However, then I wouldn't be me. So... uhh? >:?


I guess most are fairly used to being who they are. I suppose that shouldn't be too surprising.

I can't really say I'm used to it yet. Maybe it's just a matter of time, but I can't tell for sure. Whether I want to remain like this, I don't know. At the moment, however, I'm fairly unsure of my identity. I wish I could understand the answer to "who am I".

I suppose I'm just being angsty again.


This discussion about being in tune with oneself (or not yet) reminded me of an adage told by a friend from college:

"People go study psychology when they have problem with themselves. They go study philosophy when they have problem with surrounding world..."

We were both studying philosophy... But I think she later went to study psychology. I felt no such need :P


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I think the world is a cool place, I just don't interact well with it.

Somebody found this.

Silver Crusade

Ha!

...

Now I want Tim Horton's.


Sometimes I'm embarrassed to live where I do.

I'm trying to decide if I think she lost a bet and had to look ridiculous on TV or if she is a pro-gay activist trying to discredit her opposition by pretending to be one of them because nobody can be this ignorant.

Silver Crusade

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Sometimes, you just have to do like the guy sitting behind her and laugh your ass off...


That's what my roommate and I were doing last night while watching it.


Wow. I've heard some pretty crazy anti-gay remarks before, but that woman wins the prize for the craziest. I need to tell my wife (who's bi) that she's doomed to go insane. We all knew she was nuts anyway (she married me, didn't she?). :)


Ringtail wrote:

Sometimes I'm embarrassed to live where I do.

I'm trying to decide if I think she lost a bet and had to look ridiculous on TV or if she is a pro-gay activist trying to discredit her opposition by pretending to be one of them because nobody can be this ignorant.

Everything I read in the article I've heard before, except the Whitney thing. These people are for real.

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Ringtail wrote:

Sometimes I'm embarrassed to live where I do.

I'm trying to decide if I think she lost a bet and had to look ridiculous on TV or if she is a pro-gay activist trying to discredit her opposition by pretending to be one of them because nobody can be this ignorant.

Well, I know 3 people who live in Nebraska and I'm pretty sure they'd all be with you on this one Ringtail, so you're not alone at least by 3 people.


That old lady's just so crazy...must be bisexual.

Also, if gays are all doomed to die by age 40, nobody tell Sir Elton John (who I'm pretty sure turned 65 recently).

[/jokes]

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Ringtail wrote:
That old lady's just so crazy...must be bisexual.

Really hope you're joking there. I'm assuming you are but it's not clear in plain text.


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Ringtail wrote:

That old lady's just so crazy...must be bisexual.

Also, if gays are all doomed to die by age 40, nobody tell Sir Elton John (who I'm pretty sure turned 65 recently).

This is one of the ways you know they're not even listening to themselves. A guy on another board is insisting that homosexuality is caused by abusive parents, feminism, and the destruction of the American family over the past 40 years.

The takeaways:
1) Our parents are molesters.
2) Ancient Greece was full of women's libbers.
3) No one was gay before 1972.

If they actually believed this stuff, they'd take the counterexamples and accept they were wrong. But it's not about that.


Added a tag, DQ. :)

If I can't poke some fun at the ignorant gal, well...I might be slightly upset.


Ringtail wrote:

That old lady's just so crazy...must be bisexual.

Also, if gays are all doomed to die by age 40, nobody tell Sir Elton John (who I'm pretty sure turned 65 recently).

[/jokes]

Or Ian McKellen (72). Maybe he just didn't allow Death to pass. <_<

Silver Crusade

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Or these two.

*wipes away tear*


I had my first homo-erotic dream a couple of nights ago. I don't know of this is an accomplishment or not.


Meophist wrote:
I had my first homo-erotic dream a couple of nights ago. I don't know of this is an accomplishment or not.

A healthy erotic fantasy life is part of good mental health. If you're having the dreams and aren't feeling guilty or something, I say good for you.


Samnell wrote:
Meophist wrote:
I had my first homo-erotic dream a couple of nights ago. I don't know of this is an accomplishment or not.
A healthy erotic fantasy life is part of good mental health. If you're having the dreams and aren't feeling guilty or something, I say good for you.

Nah, I'm not feeling guilty. On the other hand, the dream was rather creepy. It partially involved me accidentally going into a super-hero themed part of a mall and seeing people alter their bodies to gain super-hero-ish physiques. Also, lots of rather buff masculine bodies in containers that seems to have something to do with how the people were altering their bodies.

...But nothing really to feel guilty about.


There was that thread about how you would change your body if you could...


Azten wrote:
There was that thread about how you would change your body if you could...

...To be clear, I don't have any interest in becoming some sort of super-buff dude.


Samnell wrote:
Meophist wrote:
I had my first homo-erotic dream a couple of nights ago. I don't know of this is an accomplishment or not.
A healthy erotic fantasy life is part of good mental health. If you're having the dreams and aren't feeling guilty or something, I say good for you.

What Samnell said.


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Azten wrote:
There was that thread about how you would change your body if you could...

I just want to lose this damned 30 pounds...


Meophist wrote:
Azten wrote:
There was that thread about how you would change your body if you could...
...To be clear, I don't have any interest in becoming some sort of super-buff dude.

If it didn't have some strange or creepy bit, it wouldn't be much of a dream. :)


DeathQuaker wrote:

Sometimes it bothers me when a GM starts having NPCs hit on my characters--expecting me to take the NPC up on the offer. That last qualifier is important. If I have noted my character is beautiful and she's carrying the holy symbol of the goddess of love, a passing reference to, "X folks are checking your PC out," that's one thing. It especially bothers me when they assume the sexual preferences of my PC without asking (and assuming the PC will take the NPC up on the offer).

Not of course that games involve a lot of in-character flirtation. It tends to be the exception rather than the rule, but we're all adults here (or curious, horny adolescents), sometimes it makes sense for PCs to decide to seek someone out (and vice versa). But there's what I like to think of as a "fantasy safety bubble" -- there's assumptions you just do not make and lines you do not cross without explicitly making sure the player is okay with it first.

A DM once forced a similar situation upon a character of mine (which bothered me some). To elaborate, the entire party was gifted with a "companion" while staying in an NPC's magnificent mansion (as per the spell). We were informed that these cohorts were magically animated constructs made of the same sort of stuff as the mansion. Further, they shaped to whatever form was most appealing to our characters and were completely subservient. Indeed, their entire purpose was to serve us in any way we required (hint, hint, winky face). What makes this weird is that I was playing a fallen angel who had just recently acquired a human body and was completely unfamiliar with her sexuality (a concept alien to her in her previous form: immortal and genderless). As a default, he described a male cohort for my character--but, did allude that I could alter this description if I chose. Really, I had no idea how to handle the situation, and had to make a profoundly important choice: was my character hetero- or homo-sexual. I chose the later, coincidentally.


I accidentally clicked the (29 new) link instead of checking my forum tracking list for this thread. Dangit.

Ah well, I'll go through these 29, then head back up to my tracking list.

Ringtail wrote:
Andrew Tuttle wrote:
Way back on April 30th, when describing a complex social situation, Ringtail wrote:
this post.

Wow.

Ringtail wrote:
Thoughts?

Yes. I'm going to keep reading the thread and see how / if this evolves.

-- Andy

Well, I've been de-friended on FB and the (now-ex) player told the current GM via email (finally responding) that he wouldn't be associating with us.

I concur with Freehold DM, Dark_Mistress, and Lady DeathQuaker here Ringtail. Differing sentiments and what-not, but to truth.

Big picture, not having that person in your life is probably best for you (both in terms of playing a game for entertainment, and living your live as you've got to try and live it). You def don't need to have such an entity as a Facebook "Friend."

It's tough, but it's a fact of life that not everyone's going to like you in this life you're living (regardless of how awesome you probably are).

Spoiler:
I do my best to preview my posts so I don't come off completely ignorant / stupid / crazy, and I couldn't help smiling at the "Facebook Friend" / "not everybody gonna' LIKE you in this life" riff I just typed ... but it's true. We don't walk around with "Like" buttons floating over our heads in the physical world.

Point-of-fact, many non-awesome folks go out of their way to dislike / hate on folks they perceive as more-awesome than themselves. So there's that, too. :D

I'm sincerely sorry personally, and on behalf of my species, for any hurt you experienced over this.

-- Andy


Heya Ringtail,

Ringtail wrote:

Sometimes I'm embarrassed to live where I do.

I'm trying to decide if I think she lost a bet and had to look ridiculous on TV or if she is a pro-gay activist trying to discredit her opposition by pretending to be one of them because nobody can be this ignorant.

hehe

Sometimes I'm embarrassed for my entire species.

I'm pretty good about presentation and body language:

  • I think that lady is very sincerely trying to communicate to others how she feels, and
  • Is doing the very best she can muster to communicate.

Very very. She wrote stuff down, on paper. She's got a list!

Or she's the very very best "real-life" troll I've ever watched. :D

Either or, I think she'd benefit from at least one trip to Ru Paul's Drag U.

She's got style (the hat), but not much taste that I can see (the hat). Ru can help with that, but she may need multiple trips. She's pretty far gone.

-- Andy


Hey Samnell. :D

Well it's been over a year since I got frustrated with my attempts to communicate with you.

You self-identified up-thread in this post that you'd self-diagnosed a "state-of-being" that partially explains to me some of the frustration I've suffered with you in the past.

I don't trust people who perform a self-diagnosis to accurately report to me their medical condition. A good friend of mine (who's a general practitioner) once told me that anyone who performs a self-diagnosis on a medical condition has an idiot for a doctor.

He was addressing me directly as his patient. I presented myself to him, offered him a self-diagnosis, and (for bonus points!) offerred him a treatment plan he could implement at his earliest convenience.

He shot me down, hard-core but with love.

So if you'll indulge me ... when you typed

Samnell wrote:
Everything I read in the article I've heard before, except the Whitney thing. These people are for real.

did you watch the video associated with the link, just read the article, or both?

You'll always have my highest regards,

-- Andy


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Andrew Tuttle wrote:


I don't trust people who perform a self-diagnosis to accurately report to me their medical condition. A good friend of mine (who's a general practitioner) once told me that anyone who performs a self-diagnosis on a medical condition has an idiot for a doctor.

I don't take it incredibly seriously myself.

Andrew Tuttle wrote:


Samnell wrote:
Everything I read in the article I've heard before, except the Whitney thing. These people are for real.
did you watch the video associated with the link, just read the article, or both?

As I said, i read the article. I wasn't especially eager for another live action tour of the Klan's more popular current spinoff. But I have watched it now. The presentation is certainly impressive.

Having watched it through, I can say the same about the video as I did about the article. This is all normal homophobe rhetoric. It's essentially the same stuff the FRC and the like say, without all the careful euphemisms.


Andrew Tuttle wrote:
I don't trust people who perform a self-diagnosis to accurately report to me their medical condition. A good friend of mine (who's a general practitioner) once told me that anyone who performs a self-diagnosis on a medical condition has an idiot for a doctor.

One of my old players, a medical doctor, once stated that it is normal for medicine students to self-diagnose themselves with lost and lots of afflictions during their studies as they learn about them - and the same applies to mental conditions for psychology students as I was told by fellow psychologist (hopefully soon to finish her doctorate).


Shifty wrote:


Anyhow, I have met a lot of GLB gamers, but not yet a T.

While most of the gamers I know are not trans, most of the transpeople I know are gamers. Which is kind of cool if you think about it.


I'm feeling a little gay right now. It's an odd feeling.

On another subject, the first time I played online, it was with a bisexual, heterosexual, and a transgendered person. There were other people, but I don't know what their sexualities or gender stuff are.


No posts in a while...

So, about 99% of the time, I'm pretty much aromantic.

Right now, it's the 1%. It's a bit overwhelming. I have no idea how the heck you guys deal with it.


I'm biromantic, but only homo- and zoo-sexual (no ladies here), so I was a pretty confused kid at times (at times being key here; always knew I was into men sexually, though)...easiest just to refer to myself as gay more often than not when it comes up in conversation and drop the awkward bits.

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