I'm heading over there to punch the polish president in the face
And the name of Jaryło will be written on the knuckles
[l4d2]damn, Annie oakley... [/l4d2]
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Does it apply for previous heads of state as well? What if you insulted someone and they ceased being head of state before it came out that you had done so? What if you intended to insult a head of state but the one in question was on sick leave? Had ceased to be head of state? Or if there was a case of mistaken identity?
Stupid laws will be stupid.
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Does it apply for previous heads of state as well? What if you insulted someone and they ceased being head of state before it came out that you had done so?
My understanding is that, if it hadn't come out then it wasn't public and thus not subject to that law (I think).
Had ceased to be head of state? Or if there was a case of mistaken identity?
Alleged case in Austrian Partition, probably in late XIX century or very early XX:
A drunk peasant was screaming in the middle of the village or small town that he will punch the Kaiser in the face.
Magistrate learned of it, deemed it a case of lese majesty and followed with a criminal suit (that being XIX/XX century would end probably with a fine or jail, not execution). An attorney stepped forward offering to defend the peasant in the court. The line of defense? As in almost every village of those times in that region, there was another peasant nicknamed kaiser (or king, prince, or similar) because of his ego and behavior. Obviously, the accused would not dare to insult The Kaiser, he was just threatening another peasant with unfortunate nickname. The case was dropped.
Stupid laws will be stupid.
Wait till you hear about Polish law that allows prosecution "offending religious feelings"... *sigh*
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How convenient! As a Thor-worshipping ergi Heathen I have a lot to complain about O:
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I'm heading over there to punch the polish president in the face
And the name of Jaryło will be written on the knuckles
I don't know about Polish laws that penalize "insulting a head of state", but I could say it's probably not the wisest thing to be making threats of violence on the board here (regardless of hyperbole or of them deserving it or not).
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How convenient! As a Thor-worshipping ergi Heathen I have a lot to complain about O:
Hint: You can try any way you want... I don't recalling ever any suit that would involved anything but Catholic Christians feelings being offended.
Also, I don't know if any variation of Norse religion is currently registered as religion in Poland which would probably complicate things.
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Does it apply for previous heads of state as well? What if you insulted someone and they ceased being head of state before it came out that you had done so?My understanding is that, if it hadn't come out then it wasn't public and thus not subject to that law (I think).
Had ceased to be head of state? Or if there was a case of mistaken identity?Alleged case in Austrian Partition, probably in late XIX century or very early XX:
A drunk peasant was screaming in the middle of the village or small town that he will punch the Kaiser in the face.
Magistrate learned of it, deemed it a case of lese majesty and followed with a criminal suit (that being XIX/XX century would end probably with a fine or jail, not execution). An attorney stepped forward offering to defend the peasant in the court. The line of defense? As in almost every village of those times in that region, there was another peasant nicknamed kaiser (or king, prince, or similar) because of his ego and behavior. Obviously, the accused would not dare to insult The Kaiser, he was just threatening another peasant with unfortunate nickname. The case was dropped.
Stupid laws will be stupid.Wait till you hear about Polish law that allows prosecution "offending religious feelings"... *sigh*
What about evil dictators? Could I talk shit about Bashar al Assad or Kim Jung Un?
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Aaaaaaaaarrrrrrrgggggghhhhhhhh f!!+ing gender dysphoria.
That is all,
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Aaaaaaaaarrrrrrrgggggghhhhhhhh f#%~ing gender dysphoria.
That is all,
Sympathy, sister.
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Okay. I've had almost a week to think about this.
No, it's nothing earth-shattering, it's actually about perception, play-style, a mistake on my part, and something I've been trying to reconcile for a few days.
I have a character who is trans-man. He dresses male, acts male, but due to not having a very good Disguise skill always ends up looking 'pretty' versus 'handsome'.
(Add in the fact he's Taldan and can't grow a beard ties into that, as well)
In some groups, the GM has been pretty supportive, and they have even thrown complications at my character because of that, and in general have rolled with it.
However, I sat down to play Feast of Ravenmoor this past weekend at a local convention.
Part of the way through, the GM started asking for Charisma scores. The character in question has a Charisma of 19, five points higher than any other character.
I hadn't had a chance to sit down to talk with the GM before-hand about the situation with my character, in part because he vanished for half an hour before the slot and in part because when he did return he was busy drawing out maps for the module.
At some point I mentioned that my character identifies as male in passing.
After that, who gets the NPC romantic and social attention? The CHA dumpstat human fighter *man*, the CHA 14 Half-orc *man*, the CHA 7 half-orc *man*, the CHA 14 Aasimar *woman*
Has this happened to anyone else?
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Blech. I haven't had that happen yet with any of my trans characters, but you have my sympathy. Actually, I had to call someone out on some transphobic bs when I played that exact module, although it wasn't my character and the GM was understanding (and sent me a lovely email after the game to check in since I was obviously upset).
It's annoying that to play a trans character, you have to show your hand in little ways, like the (for me, annoying) phrasing of "identifies as" when cis characters just get to *be* their gender without question of identity. Otherwise people would just assume your characters are cis (if they're binary anyway). That's why I made it a point to have my trans woman dwarf be a little stubbly and shave after we had been adventuring for a few days.
I wish you better luck and GMs in the future for your beardless Taldan man.
Just posting to say I'm still around. The past few weeks I've had little to no energy or desire to post. Still don't really. This is mostly just a courtesy, in all honesty. There's no need for concern or sympathy. Its happened many times before and it always passes, eventually. When that happens expect me to post again with gusto.
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Hm, exciting school year for me. I was elected to a leadership position in our local Teacher's Union. In Exec committee they were looking for a Human Rights Chapter contact, and with no one else stepping forward, I volunteered.
Suddenly I am awash in Human Rights/LGBTQ/Womens/Minority rights/issues, scheduled for monthly meetings with other state and regional representatives, and training. What did I get myself into?
My political activism was decades ago, and it is strange to jump back into this water.
So if any of the rest of you happen to be attending Teacher LGBTQ or Human rights conferences here in California, look me up!! I will be there.
Kinda exciting and kinda scary at the same time. My how times have changed!
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I moved in and met my roommate today. I was going to stay in the closet for a bit until I had a better handle on the living environment, but he brought up that he's gay to make sure it wouldn't be an issue, which made it a perfect time to bring up being trans. He has no issue rooming with a transwoman, and I don't have any problem rooming with a gay man, so it should work out without having to get administration involved. I don't know why I was so worried. It is San Francisco. And I do love this location. It's a townhouse, not a dorm, and we have a kitchenette with a big fridge, a stovetop, and an oven, we get a surprisingly big living room/dining room combo, and the Muni and Samtrans bus stops are literally right across the street from our front door. Ten minutes from our house is the Muni light rail, and we live right behind a shopping mall with a Trader Joe's (Great and affordable grocery store that I shall be frequenting heavily), a Teavana (TEA!), plenty of coffeeshops, and all the other good mall stuff. We also have a public library within very easy walking distance. And the ocean. You can smell it when the wind is right.
Anxiety passed. This will work. This will be good.
Ah, how bittersweet this post is in light of recent events. I feel like so much shit right now. I lost patience with my roommate's drug habit and ratted him out to an RA for smoking pot in the house, but it will take time to move one of us, so I'm going to have to live with him while he's pissed off and fuming at me for snitching on him, and I just ruined my friendship with my other roommate with this as well. I also feel bad because the marijuana wasn't the whole issue, it's just what the university is most mad about. I'm all for legalization, so that makes me feel uncomfortable. I just want to move rooms, not get him busted for possession. I do want him to stop using it in out room when I'm trying to sleep, though.
The bigger issue is that my roommate is trying to score Aderall. I have serious ADHD, and am trying to get on Aderall. I can't live with someone who will pressure me to sell it to him (he's not the type to take a no answer) and who would possibly steal it. Also, he doesn't have ADHD, he wants it to abuse. I won't live with a speed head. Period. My Dad used to abuse my ADHD meds, and I will never allow myself to live around that shit again. That's why I went to the RA, but the marijuana thing really has the universities jimmies rustled.
The university says that moving me will be very hard because of their massive housing crisis, and I haven't come out as transgender to them yet, which puts me right back where I was before, except if I come out to them, it might make an already massively difficult room change much worse, since finding me a room will be so hard as it is.
Okay, a little lighter subject.
This is a pretty awesome commercial...
Campbell's soup I am your father
I thought about posting it under the movies or TV forums...but I understand there's been some controversy about it...so thought best to try to avoid any problems on the forums and post it where hopefully it is received somewhat friendlier.
heres' youtube's link...https://youtu.be/7rZOMY2sOnE if the above one doesn't work.
Very funny if you are Star Wars fan!
Just posting what I found a fun commercial. Got a kick out of it.
PS: I understand the guys are married in real life?
Okay, a little lighter subject.
Thank you. Given the gloom of the past couple of days with some faint silver linings that was very helpful.
I've just caught up with the UK X Factor and thought you might like to see Seann Miley Moore.
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O.M.G. Now that is talent, and in a more than conventionally attractive package to boot. Don't care for the fashion choices (but as I line up with male stereotype #-I-forget "men don't have fashion sense" take my opinion with a grain or more of salt).
Good morning/afternoon/evening,
PFS Question, but felt it might be more appropriate here to prevent starting a firestorm/threadlock elsewhere.
There were comments about kobolds having intersex children (In ISR), but are there other races in Golarion that may also have such features? How would that model mechanically?
I'm not looking to 'cheat' the numbers, if anything, I'd even be comfortable with taking a -2 to Disguise as *either* gender...
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I imagine that all races with sexual organs have intersex individuals. In humans in the real world, being intersex is more common than having red hair, so it's not actually that unusual.
There are a lot of different intersex conditions, and they present in a number of different ways depending on what they are. It's also important to note that the sex binary is just as socially constructed as the gender binary: based on common biological poles but oversimplified and socially rigid.
Intersex also isn't a gender, and intersex people can be any gender (as well as being cis or trans, since those terms essentially indicate whether you were assigned the correct sex at birth). With kobolds, I imagine it's difficult to tell until sexual maturity (and often after) since reptilian humanoids probably have cloacas anyway.
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Okay, yeah, redheads are prevalent only in certain areas, since the gene for it is recessive. That statistic is more about how common/rare intersex people are, which is something that is far less widely known than the prevalence of redheads because the sex binary excludes and erases them.
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As the Wikipedia article on red hair indicates, red hair is also relatively common in parts of northern Africa and Papua New Guinea, (although apparently the largest population of redheads is actually in the US). I randomly learned about this through the internet, even though "common" knowledge tells me that red hair = Anglo Saxon. But I had no idea about any of this from a US perspective, because mainstream (although private rather than public) education failed to teach me that.
Redheaded-ness is similar to intersex-ness in this regard: the prevailing common knowledge about them leaves out a lot of stuff when it comes to how, and where, and in whom it presents. And this isn't a random failing of common education, this knowledge is filtered through the lens of race, gender, and sex politics.
I hope that I'm not coming across too harshly, and I apologize if I'm stepping on anyone's toes (especially intersex people, since I am not intersex and I'm working off of what I know from various sources, although I am trying to speak in ways about intersex that I've read intersex people talk about it). But I get a bit defensive about the prevalence of certain groups' existence, since I've seen a lot of people oppose claims about the population percentage of a given group with no source or evidence, often as an excuse to deny representation or just to outright erase their existence (ask people if they know how many people are trans and see how long it takes for someone to claim they don't actually exist). Granted, my numbers are unsourced as well, but it strikes a chord with me when I say something like X% of people are part of a marginalized group and receive responses like "well that doesn't sound like an accurate number to me" with no further dispute than gut feeling.
According to wiki:
In Scotland, 10% of the population have red hair and approximately 35% carry the recessive redhead gene. In Ireland as many as 10% of the population have red, auburn, or strawberry blond hair. It is thought that up to 46% of the Irish population carry the recessive redhead gene.
I don't think comparison of anything to the prevalence of red hair is helpful
My brain is whirling and I'm not sure where a good spot to ask the question is, but this seems like the most likely to get spot-on answers.
So today I had a moment of memory flash at work.
When I started at my job over twenty years ago, part of my full-time job responsibilities was 'carding' individuals for the purchase of tobacco and alcoholic beverages.
The community I was in at the time had a hard age limit -- you HAD to card anyone that appeared 40 years or younger.
I had someone come to my counter that was trying really hard to 'pass' as a woman. This was before I had learned a bit more about such things being possible, (aside from a couple of viewings of 'Rocky Horror Picture Show' when I was younger)...
...and they brought a six-pack of beer and a bottle of wine to my counter.
When I asked them for their ID, they refused to show it, so as per company policy I pulled the product down behind the counter while waiting for my supervisor to make the call to sell or not sell.
The woman (I use this term now, because that's what she was presenting as) then pulled out her ID for my supervisor and started acting erratically enough that my supervisor felt uncomfortable overriding my decline of the sale, and she left upset.
It was only after this that I discovered that her ID identified her as male, and the description didn't match hers at all (contacts, wig).
Which is what leads to this train of questions that came to mind at work today:
Was I being trans-phobic in my refusal of the sale?
Is this as much of a thing now as it was in the mid-90s? Moreso? Less so?
What recourse would someone have in a circumstance like that to buy an age-controlled substance?
Has anyone ever encountered this from the *other* side of the counter (as a customer being refused such a sale)? How were you treated by the associate on the other side of the counter?
Has anyone changed their buying patterns because of this sort of encounter?
Thank you very much for your time in advance, and if this line of questioning is hitting sore spots I apologize, I'm trying to learn.
That's a tough call.
However, if company policy was carding someone 40 and under, that's the policy and if you adhered to it, you did nothing wrong.
I am NOT trans...so that specific item has not been a problem for me. There are conditions similar that are more specifically genetic which make some people experience similar things. For example...
There have been many times where someone mistakes me for a woman. To this day, I simply smile and continue onwards. I think I appear totally male. Apparently I don't to some, and for some I definitely do not sound male.
I just smile if they make the mistake of saying ma'am or miss or any thing else and continue on.
That said, I have no compunction about showing my ID. If they ask for it, I'll provide it.
Of course, the ID is in line with my appearance, so that's probably not the problem they had.
I think it's more that their appearance did not match the ID, and so they were worried what the reaction would be when the ID didn't match what they looked like. They were probably already afraid point of sale would be refused due to the differences of the picture on the ID and their appearance.
From what you described it doesn't sound as if you were being transphobic as you didn't even get a chance to see the ID at first when you called the manager.
It sounds they may have also reacted poorly due to fear. Fear is a terrible thing to experience, and there are many who have to deal with it on a daily basis.
I think if they were not so fearful of displaying their ID, and had displayed it, then the situation would fall on you to check the ID closely to ensure it belonged to them. Even if the picture didn't match (and how many of us have bad pictures on our ID's...probably 3/4 of us!), you could probably tell that it was their ID on very close examination, or request clarification from them that you could accept (maybe they had other forms of identification).
If they were CLEARLY over the age of 21, it becomes even easier. The asking of the ID is basically a rote thing where you already know they are over 21, so you can basically give them a pass.
NOW...if you had seen they were over 21 and refused to sell because you didn't think they appeared like their ID...that could be problematic. Even worse, if you denied it because you THOUGHT they appeared like a woman and the ID identified them as a man.
I know I'd be rather upset if someone wouldn't sell me something because they felt I was a woman even if my ID said I was a man or something similar.
It does irk me a little when someone feels I am a woman and talks to me that way, and when I correct them there is not even an apology, or even worse, they persist. AS long as I get what I went to get, I don't get overly upset though (irked is no where close to being upset...I might have a grimace but that's about it).
However, I don't let it get to me. If they declined a sale (which has also actually happened) I also let it slide, but occasionally if there's a website where I can complain I'll lodge a formal complaint through the proper channels of the company.
In your instance, it sounds more like your supervisor was the one who made the final decision, so in that light I don't think you were in the wrong. Furthermore, after the Supervisor had made that decision...and the person was acting erratically, it sounds as if the decision had already been made.
In my opinion, you made your decision at the first when they didn't proffer the ID (always proffer your ID when asked if that's the requirement...even if the picture doesn't match, you can't claim anything if it's required and you don't follow the requirements)...and you even went to the manager for more clarification instead of out and out refusing the sale. At the point the manager came, I'd say it was out of your hands at that point and reliant upon the manager's call.
In that instance, I don't think a complaint to the company would even clear them. If they were asked for ID and didn't offer it...that's a pretty big problem in these instances. I think they might get a gift certificate or something, but nothing would probably be done to the employee because the employee didn't do anything that was out of order.
I'm probably not the best person to answer this though, there are some this probably hits far closer to home and have a better opinion.
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Was I being trans-phobic in my refusal of the sale?
Probably not, though you may have been a bit insensitive. People who are just learning obviously have a lot of issues. In the future, I'd probably make sure that your people know that if someone is dressed as a woman, then it might put her at ease to hear someone call her ma'am. It's hard, society puts a lot of pressure on you and violence could have come from anywhere so her nervousness was certainly appropriate. BUT her stuff didn't match and it's kind of hard to make an identification off of that. Also, I'd explain exactly why she was denied service. Specifically because she was acting nervous and because her eye color and hair color didn't match her id. Don't mention the gender marker.
Is this as much of a thing now as it was in the mid-90s? Moreso? Less so?
Probably not. I don't want to say violencce is down but understanding is up and there are prominent trans women in media now that are positive. Depending on where you are, if it's a particularly liberal city like Seattle for instance, you will probably see less of it. 20 years ago, things were a bit different.
What recourse would someone have in a circumstance like that to buy an age-controlled substance?
Try a different store probably. Find one that won't card her or not care enough.
Has anyone ever encountered this from the *other* side of the counter (as a customer being refused such a sale)? How were you treated by the associate on the other side of the counter?
I can't answer that question, I've largely had passing privilege, but I can say what circumstances might have lead her there.
One of the first things very young(and I mean this as, not had a lot of time in their preferred gender) trans people do is go buy something from a store they expect won't have a lot of people in it. Going to a liquor counter seems like a dumb idea but she might have been making a run for her support group or whatever.
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Has anyone changed their buying patterns because of this sort of
Has anyone changed their buying patterns because of this sort of encounter?
This is a very "corporate" question. It sounds like you're less interested in treating the trans* customer right and more interested in making sure you don't lose sales because of that.
I think this is one of those cases where you should step back from the numbers and prioritise the human element. :)
Was I being trans-phobic in my refusal of the sale?
Probably not, though you may have been a bit insensitive. People who are just learning obviously have a lot of issues. In the future, I'd probably make sure that your people know that if someone is dressed as a woman, then it might put her at ease to hear someone call her ma'am. It's hard, society puts a lot of pressure on you and violence could have come from anywhere so her nervousness was certainly appropriate. BUT her stuff didn't match and it's kind of hard to make an identification off of that. Also, I'd explain exactly why she was denied service. Specifically because she was acting nervous and because her eye color and hair color didn't match her id. Don't mention the gender marker.
Is this as much of a thing now as it was in the mid-90s? Moreso? Less so?
Probably not. I don't want to say violencce is down but understanding is up and there are prominent trans women in media now that are positive. Depending on where you are, if it's a particularly liberal city like Seattle for instance, you will probably see less of it. 20 years ago, things were a bit different.
What recourse would someone have in a circumstance like that to buy an age-controlled substance?
Try a different store probably. Find one that won't card her or not care enough.
Has anyone ever encountered this from the *other* side of the counter (as a customer being refused such a sale)? How were you treated by the associate on the other side of the counter?
I can't answer that question, I've largely had passing privilege, but I can say what circumstances might have lead her there.
One of the first things very young(and I mean this as, not had a lot of time in their preferred gender) trans people do is go buy something from a store they expect won't have a lot of people in it. Going to a liquor counter seems like a...
interesting. Very much so.
Has anyone changed their buying patterns because of this sort of encounter?This is a very "corporate" question. It sounds like you're less interested in treating the trans* customer right and more interested in making sure you don't lose sales because of that.
I think this is one of those cases where you should step back from the numbers and prioritise the human element. :)
this is often the only language companies understand. It is also the language of history- and an all too often quiet one at that. One never knows the effect a movement has had until they look at the effect it had on economic culture.
this is often the only language companies understand. It is also the language of history- and an all too often quiet one at that. One never knows the effect a movement has had until they look at the effect it had on economic culture.
While economy is an effective and powerful tool, it's not the be-all, end-all means to achieve an end. It's likely the easiest to succeed at, surely, and the most effective, perhaps. But it's hardly the only thing that brings in results.
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Probably not, though you may have been a bit insensitive. People who are just learning obviously have a lot of issues. In the future, I'd probably make sure that your people know that if someone is dressed as a woman, then it might put her at ease to hear someone call her ma'am. It's hard, society puts a lot of pressure on you and violence could have come from anywhere so her nervousness was certainly appropriate. BUT her stuff didn't match and it's kind of hard to make an identification off of that. Also, I'd explain exactly why she was denied service. Specifically because she was acting nervous and because her eye color and hair color didn't match her id. Don't mention the gender marker.
I use 'Miss' now unless the customer indicates the customer prefers 'Ma'am'. Older customers (to a certain point) prefer that, because it makes them feel younger. After a certain point most insist on 'Ma'am' or *insert her name here* which makes for better interaction provided I can beat my brain-meats to remember it. (I'm horribly bad at name-memory most of the time now)
NOTE: This is in the case of trans-woman. In the event of trans-man, I use 'sir'. I haven't encountered anyone with a 'spectrum situation' yet that has another term.
Probably not. I don't want to say violence is down but understanding is up and there are prominent trans women in media now that are positive. Depending on where you are, if it's a particularly liberal city like Seattle for instance, you will probably see less of it. 20 years ago, things were a bit different.
The store I was at during the incident was in a very conservative religious community in Northern Illinois.
If there was one bright side to that situation, individuals (with or without 'passing privilege') tended to get better treatment than anyone who professed they were a gamer of any sort.
That may be an outlier, though, because a local youth did horrible things and then the media jumped all over the fact that it was their gamer background that inspired the action.
I don't remember seeing the police ever stalking someone 'passing'. I *do* vividly remember being shadowed a few times from work after I made the mistake of mentioning I was a gamer...
THAT being said, I am not conflating the two.
Trans-people have it hella rougher from all the hoops they have to go through to do something simple.
This is part of why I ask tons of questions, to find out what I can do to make it even a little bit easier (though it'll probably be years before it does)
Up-thread, someone was asking about the rather mercantile term I used about buying experience -- I blame over two decades in retail for slipping into corporate-speak.
Someone slap me Gibbs-style if I start spouting too much about enumerating paradigms and increasing group syner-- *tranq dart*
I tend to like shopping at certain stores where I know I won't get a transphobic response to buying gendered items, if that's what you mean.
I usually pass these days so long as I don't speak. But when I first started, and first switched presentation, my face hadn't changed much yet, and I passed much less often. At that point, once I found a place that didn't hassle me, I tended to stick with that place. And I still get my HRT meds from the pharmacy attached to the clinic my doctor's at rather than go someplace closer for the same reason, even though it's 40 minutes by bus each way. Something I should probably work on changing.
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This has been a weird and overall bad week. I have had a number of friends who have been harassed, stalked, blackmailed and attacked this past week. Issues have involved dead names, former family, political activism, coming out about current and former mental conditions and seeking treatments, and attempts to help out and educate about much of the hate and discrimination that occurs on a daily basis in many minority or under represented groups out in society.
Non of my friends are hateful people, people who use violence to promote agendas, nor place their past into people faces, but instead are quiet advocates who while not in the closet, do not evangelize, rather performing quiet and helpful mentoring, and sharing of their own past to those who ask in order to help and guide the next generation and promote positive understanding of what they went through and to hopefully minimize the trauma of those who are still going through or facing those issues.
I know I am being cryptic, but the issues they share about are so diverse: Cancer, depression, gender dysphoria, transexualism, homosexuality, women's issues, etc.
This is part of what saddens me, the general attitude of the privileged majority that think it is ok to treat people like dirt, making snide comments in response to their posts, and their activities. They cry out that 'you should just stay in the closet', 'how dare you flaunt who you are', 'be a good little drone and stay out of my sight', 'your existence harshes my buzz', 'how dare you...' and the list goes on.
What right does anyone have to say that you shouldn't exist? And that their way is the only right and normal way to exist?
I could list all these friends names now, but the list would be long, but know that every one of you going through this garbage, that I feel blessed to have you as a friend, and that I and Tara love and support you against all the asshats of the world. You can count on us to believe in you and support you, now and in the future!
Sincerely
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Sorry for a tangent (and if isn't appropriate for this thread) but I thought this would lighten the mood.
Ha!
Well, when you're out in your tree stand with your best buddy, sometimes you just need to break up the monotony. It helps to be prepared with a good lube.
ROTFL.
This is why I don't go hunting.
Apologies for being serious a lot lately...
If there are TERF (Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminists), are there also TARF (Trans-Accepting Radical Feminists)?
Is that such a fine point that it may as well be the head of a needle that spirits of various flavors are having a rave?
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I typed up a longer post but my internet ate it.
I would say the most pro-trans feminist movement would be intersectional feminism. Third-wave feminism might also be a decent way to talk about feminists who approach gender as a social construct. But I think some TERFs might technically fall under that umbrella if they're the sort to advocate "destroying the concept of gender," which unfortunately also erases people's experience of their own gender, and therefore ignores gender identity; just like anti-feminists and other transphobic people who don't accept trans identities.
I don't think so, largely because the anti-trans, gender-separatist nature of TERF feminism is part of what makes it radical. There isn't really all that much room for radicalism in mainstream or intersectional feminism. (It boils down to basically a binary: either you think gender shouldn't affect people's opportunities, how they're judged, etc. or you don't.)
There's room for radical action, I guess, but I don't see much for radical belief.
It's pretty hard to find groups that actually match elements of the strawman feminists that misogynists like to posit (women who hate men, women who want female supremacy, etc.) but the closest real analogues (female separatists, some forms of eco-feminism) always seem to be trans-exclusionary.
It doesn't sound like there's a 'gender-test', but are there any guidelines to help with identification?
Like good questions, the questions I've been raising have been creating a whole crop of more questions...