Ok i'm running a human fighter who is built around the long bow. I'm only level two but starting to look at whats the best type of bow i could use. Right now using a composite long bow with a +3 strength rating. Now thinking about buying a Large Masterwork Composite Long Bow with +3 strength rating. I would get extra damage and only take a -1 to attack rolls. Would this work?
Is there some other build i could go with?
Where are you getting the -1 from? What's your fighter's strength?
You can not use a large bow as medium sized character. Attacks roll bonuses are more important than damage bonuses for the purpose of DPR(damage per round) calculations.
Rangers and Fighters both do well with bows.
Fighters do more damage consistently, but rangers do more damage if they get to fight their favored enemy.
Normally when you attempt to wield a weapon that's one category too large for you, it increases the effort by one category (light becomes one-handed, one-handed becomes two-handed, two-handed becomes unwieldable without something else like a feat or class feature). A bow is a two-handed weapon. How are you using a Large bow ?
Ok i'm running a human fighter who is built around the long bow. I'm only level two but starting to look at whats the best type of bow i could use. Right now using a composite long bow with a +3 strength rating. Now thinking about buying a Large Masterwork Composite Long Bow with +3 strength rating. I would get extra damage and only take a -1 to attack rolls. Would this work?
Is there some other build i could go with?
You get -2 for oversized, +1 for masterwork, resulting in a -1, yes.
But I think this is a bad idea. I would rather improve with items and feats.
What archetype/non-archetype do you have? What are you stats? What are your plans, where do you want to take it?
Then I can maybe give some suggestions. :-)
Why only one level of gunslinger?
Until you start getting magical bows, yeah, a masterwork composite longbow that matches your strength is the best you can do.
+1 to Sylvanite.
I'd worry less about Dodge, and probably take something like Snap Shot or Improved Initiative, Iron Will, etc. Your Will save is probably a bigger weakness than your AC in this build.
I think you have another feat at 5 to play with, as well as at 7. Use them to address your real weaknesses if there are no archery enhancing feats you really want.
You might want to grab Clustered Shots at some point. Also, vital strike may be of limited use. Archers excel at doing full attacks. I understand that every now and then you might have to move in a round, but I'd hope that the vast majority of the time you won't be. Up to you there, though.
Point Blank Master is also really nice, and you can take it at 5. More full attacking and less moving if you're brave/confident!
I would take toughness over dodge, due to ur very low con, as well as pick up combat reflexes in prep for the snap shot line. I agree with point blank master as well as it meshes with the snap shot line well.. Iron will would also be a great feat for you.. possibly imp iron will at some point..
With Con that low, I wouldn't load up on feats that are great when you're in Melee range. I like Point Blank Master as my one safety feat for that, but building around Snap Shot and the like with a 10 Con is either going to lead to a playstyle that results in death, or a bunch of feats that should never really see use.
YMMV
Point Blank Master is also really nice, and you can take it at 5. More full attacking and less moving if you're brave/confident!
Just a comment: it is possible for a fighter to take Point blank master at level 4 IF they are willing to replace a level 1 or level 2 fighter feat with PBM after taking Weapon Spec as thier 4th level feat. However, that is fighter levels only (as per Weapon Spec.) - Gauss
Normally when you attempt to wield a weapon that's one category too large for you, it increases the effort by one category (light becomes one-handed, one-handed becomes two-handed, two-handed becomes unwieldable without something else like a feat or class feature). A bow is a two-handed weapon. How are you using a Large bow ?
That's true for melee weapons.
Point Blank Master is also really nice, and you can take it at 5. More full attacking and less moving if you're brave/confident!Just a comment: it is possible for a fighter to take Point blank master at level 4 IF they are willing to replace a level 1 or level 2 fighter feat with PBM after taking Weapon Spec as thier 4th level feat. However, that is fighter levels only (as per Weapon Spec.) - Gauss
His build has a level of rogue in it.
That's true for melee weapons.
The "Inappropriately Sized Weapons" section (page 144) does not distinguish between melee and ranged weapons. The rule applies equally to both.
That's why I was asking the OP how he was wielding an oversized bow.
His build has a level of rogue in it.Point Blank Master is also really nice, and you can take it at 5. More full attacking and less moving if you're brave/confident!Just a comment: it is possible for a fighter to take Point blank master at level 4 IF they are willing to replace a level 1 or level 2 fighter feat with PBM after taking Weapon Spec as thier 4th level feat. However, that is fighter levels only (as per Weapon Spec.) - Gauss
I wasn't sure if you were referring to level 5 in general or level 5 because of his 1 level in rogue so I figured I'd add that in. Alot of people forget that the fighter can do that. - Gauss
The "Inappropriately Sized Weapons" section (page 144) does not distinguish between melee and ranged weapons. The rule applies equally to both.But oversized two-handed weapons aren't allowed. Bows are two-handed weapons, and thus not allwed.
Yeah, you're right.
@Corbin: I missed that in the beginning - you cannot use a large bow :-)