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Tips for the aspiring angry flower: "has" (or "have", or "haven't" or "hasn't") and "got" do not belong in the same sentence when "got" is used in a possessive sense.
"I have a college degree" ...OK
"I got laid by Netiquette Nazi!" ...OK
"Goblins haven't got grammar." ...Bzzzzt!
No! Wrong! You FAIL English. You will now be lashed.
(Almost everyone is doing this, even various Big Cheeses in the midst of their own critiquing errant verbiage in Superstar submissions. For the love of huge matinees, please make it stop.)
You have my sympathies. Cigar?
"I have to tell you that George got a notice this weekend."
Tips for the aspiring angry flower: "has" (or "have", or "haven't" or "hasn't") and "got" do not belong in the same sentence when "got" is used in a possessive sense.
"I have a college degree" ...OK
"I got laid by Netiquette Nazi!" ...OK
"Goblins haven't got grammar." ...Bzzzzt!No! Wrong! You FAIL English. You will now be lashed.
(Almost everyone is doing this, even various Big Cheeses in the midst of their own critiquing errant verbiage in Superstar submissions. For the love of huge matinees, please make it stop.)
Y'all ain't never gonna done have no friends no how if'n y'all keep talkin' yer leetist grammer all up round here. Prob'ly haven't got none now anyway.
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Nitpickin' l33t1s7, I got yo grammer right here.
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"I have to tell you that George got a notice this weekend.""Have" is not being used in a possessive sense here.
Whenever the meaning of a sentence would remain identical if the word "got" is simply removed, the inclusion of "got" is ungrammatical due to redundancy.
Sorry, you only claimed that "got" needed to be used in a possessive sense in your first post, not "have".
Grammar nazis do not get to say "you understood what I meant, didn't you?"
THBTHTHTHTHT!!! =)
To be serious, though, I believe you are wrong. Please correct me here if you know this stuff better than me (not a native english speaker).
"got" is the imperfect form of "to get", while "have got", a short form of "have gotten", is the perfect form. Today, there is a slight and subtle difference at most between the two, but traditionally, the difference is that the "have got" is the more "finished" way to express it. With "got", it is implied that you might still be getting, with "have got" it is clear that the getting is in the past.
Bleah, too long since basic grammar for me...
MikeSchneiderspeak doubleplusungood.
Being a grammar nazi just means you're picky. It doesn't mean you're right.
What about dirty Harry didn't they use this in Dirty Harry which I think was before AOL.
To be serious, though, I believe you are wrong. Please correct me here if you know this stuff better than me (not a native english speaker).
"got" is the imperfect form of "to get", while "have got", a short form of "have gotten", is the perfect form. Today, there is a slight and subtle difference at most between the two, but traditionally, the difference is that the "have got" is the more "finished" way to express it. With "got", it is implied that you might still be getting, with "have got" it is clear that the getting is in the past.
Bleah, too long since basic grammar for me...
Let's talk about the pluperfect; I like the pluperfect!
[student latinist]Oh by all means. English grammar is irregular enough that there is more rules for what you can do, than for what you cannot do. I say, do away with all those silly 'spaces', 'commas' and 'big or small letters' and let's instead return to good, oldfashioned latin grammar.[/student latinist]