Question about measuring range.

[codemephit]

My group is having some debate on measuring range (distance) for using ranged weapons. I am hoping I can get some feedback on how others handle it in their games.

A dagger has a range of 10ft. Consider the following setups:

[ ] = 5ft square
[H] = PC
[M] = Monster

Setup 1:
[H][M][ ][ ]

Setup 2:
[H][ ][M][ ]

Setup 3:
[H][ ][ ][M]

Of the above three setups, which is the one where the monster is considered 10ft away (the maximum a dagger can be thrown *without* incurring a penalty)?

Thanks for your input.

-CodeMephit

P.S. For what its worth, I personally consider setup 3 to be the farthest a dagger can be thrown *without* incurring a penalty. I get this from measuring the distance *between* the two occupied squares, but I have no idea if I am really doing it right or not.

[Ravingdork]

1) 5 feet away
2) 10 feet away
3) 15 feet away (-2 penalty)

[Stubs McKenzie]

What RD said.

Remember, small and medium core races (wanted to say creatures, but not all creatures are the same) have a 5ft natural reach, which allows them to attack creatures adjacent. In the same way, someone 'standing next to you' is considered within that 5ft reach.

[Adamantine Dragon]

RD and Stubs are correct. To hit someone in (2) you would need a 10' reach weapon. It's a 10 foot throw.

Dagger throwing character concepts are a b++&&. I know, I build them all the time.

[codemephit]

You guys are great. Thanks to RD, Stubs, and AD. Your quick responses and clear answers have helped greatly.

-CM