Damage type on bullets?

[BRYAN MOORE]

so yeah
I'm running a gunslinger, and am now at level 3
Issues like Damage Reduction and ‘Resistances’ are starting to show up in combat

do bullets do “Slashing”, “Piercing”, “Bludgeoning”...other?

Thanks

[Jeraa]

It says what kind of damage they do in Ultimate Combat.

(all but 1 type of firearm does bludgeoning and piercing damage)

[nerdorking]

Bludgeoning AND Piercing.

[BRYAN MOORE]

really?!

- I'm having an "ah-ha" moment I think-
the "B" and "P"?

I presumed the chart was showing "B ullets and P ellets"

thanks

[master arminas]

Technically, smooth-bore muzzle loaders don't fire bullets--they fire balls. And pellets are often used in the modern context of shotguns, but in the period of which we are talking they are referred to as 'shot', sometimes with a precursor to indiciate the size of the shot; i.e. buckshot, birdshot, etc.

There were several Pennsylvania volunteer regiments in the US Civil War who used smooth-bore muskets and their preferred load was what was known as 'buck-and-ball'. They basically loaded a ball (between half an inch and three-quarters of an inch in diameter), tamped it down, and then loaded a few buckshot and another wad on top. Made a big boom.

MA

[spalding]

BRYAN MOORE wrote:

really?!

- I'm having an "ah-ha" moment I think-
the "B" and "P"?

I presumed the chart was showing "B ullets and P ellets"

thanks

No -- Bludgeoning and Piercing.

[Robot_nachos]

you may be interested to know however that somewhat recently I was perusing the entry on damage reduction and found a particular paragraph that makes guns somewhat more terrifying.

Damage reduction does not negate touch attacks, energy damage dealt along with an attack, or energy drains. Nor does it affect poisons or diseases delivered by inhalation, ingestion, or contact.

Provided that I am reading that properly then damage reduction is never an issue for guns.

[gnomersy]

Robot_nachos wrote:

you may be interested to know however that somewhat recently I was perusing the entry on damage reduction and found a particular paragraph that makes guns somewhat more terrifying.

Damage reduction does not negate touch attacks, energy damage dealt along with an attack, or energy drains. Nor does it affect poisons or diseases delivered by inhalation, ingestion, or contact.

Provided that I am reading that properly then damage reduction is never an issue for guns.

Except guns don't count as touch attacks for the purposes of feats which aren't allowed to function when using touch attacks.

You could probably pull some shenanigans and try to get past DR with it but it's clear what the intention was at least for me.

[Maxximilius]

Guns aren't ranged touch attacks. They are normal ranged attacks hitting Touch AC within a certain range increment.

[Robot_nachos]

Huh, that's an odd distinction.