Eagle Knights and Other Titles


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Scarab Sages 1/5

I want my Paladin to be an Eagle Knight. But I can't seem to find any rule on it. Can I just make him an Eagle Knight? My paladin has 4 prestige points. I'm not sure if that helps. I've read on the boards that corprel costs 2pp. I'm confused.

Liberty's Edge 5/5

Cole Cummings wrote:
I want my Paladin to be an Eagle Knight. But I can't seem to find any rule on it. Can I just make him an Eagle Knight? My paladin has 4 prestige points. I'm not sure if that helps. I've read on the boards that corprel costs 2pp. I'm confused.

In the new Faction guide, each faction has things you can spend PP on and what the Fame prerequisite is, to buy titles and other things.

Eagle Knight for the rank of Lance Corporal requires 20 Fame and costs 2pp.

Scarab Sages 1/5

Andrew Christian wrote:
Cole Cummings wrote:
I want my Paladin to be an Eagle Knight. But I can't seem to find any rule on it. Can I just make him an Eagle Knight? My paladin has 4 prestige points. I'm not sure if that helps. I've read on the boards that corprel costs 2pp. I'm confused.

In the new Faction guide, each faction has things you can spend PP on and what the Fame prerequisite is, to buy titles and other things.

Eagle Knight for the rank of Lance Corporal requires 20 Fame and costs 2pp.

Ah, The Faction Guide. Have it. Haven't even read it yet.

5 TPA, 1 CPA: Gain the rank of lance corporal
and Diplomacy as a class skill. A character
of this rank may purchase feather tokens
from the faction at a 10% discount.

Nifty, so I can join the Eagle Knights, without any prestige at all it seems. But must spend Prestige on Ranks within the Organization.

Got it
Thanks.

Grand Lodge 5/5

Sorry, that part of the Faction Guide is not available for PFS play.

Additional Resources wrote:

Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Faction Guide

Feat: Fast Crawl; Spells: hibernate, tripvine; Traits: Beast of the Society, Berserker of the Society, Blade of the Society, Defender of the Society, Exalted of the Society, Greater Adept of the Society, Havoc of the Society, Honored Fist of the Society, Maestro of the Society, Stalwart of the Society, Tracker of the Society

You have to use the PFS Field Guide which is required reading for PFS players.

To be invited into the ranks of the Eagle Knights (with the rank of Lance Corporal) you need 20 Fame and it costs 1 Prestige Point. So you can't just be an Eagle Knight. The minimum rank for PCs is Lance Corporal.

Scarab Sages 1/5

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Don Walker wrote:
Sorry, that part of the Faction Guide is not available for PFS play.
Additional Resources wrote:

Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Faction Guide

Feat: Fast Crawl; Spells: hibernate, tripvine; Traits: Beast of the Society, Berserker of the Society, Blade of the Society, Defender of the Society, Exalted of the Society, Greater Adept of the Society, Havoc of the Society, Honored Fist of the Society, Maestro of the Society, Stalwart of the Society, Tracker of the Society

You have to use the PFS Field Guide which is required reading for PFS players.

To be invited into the ranks of the Eagle Knights (with the rank of Lance Corporal) you need 20 Fame and it costs 1 Prestige Point. So you can't just be an Eagle Knight. The minimum rank for PCs is Lance Corporal.

You know, there comes a point when the rules become so much of a hassle that the game isn't fun anymore. I am not going to buy Another Book. I have the Faction Guide. We shouldn't make products obsolete as long as they are still in print. That is very annoying.

Grand Lodge 3/5

The Faction Guide wasn't designed for Pathfinder Society, so as it were, it didn't make it obsolete. it merely used some of the same concepts of PFS.

And as long as you don't use anything from sources than the core you won't need to have to buy anymore books.

Liberty's Edge 4/5 5/55/5 **

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Cole Cummings wrote:
We shouldn't make products obsolete as long as they are still in print. That is very annoying.

How is it obsolete? Everything in there that was legal before is still legal, in fact It is one of the better books out there.

The Exchange 5/5

The Field Guide PDF is only $14. I am sorry that you bought a book without realizing that it had limited usefulness for you. The Faction Guide is still an excellent resource and you shouldn't regret buying it. The Pathfinder Society Field Guide is likewise a good value. I hope you will reconsider.

Liberty's Edge 5/5

Cole Cummings wrote:
Don Walker wrote:
Sorry, that part of the Faction Guide is not available for PFS play.
Additional Resources wrote:

Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Faction Guide

Feat: Fast Crawl; Spells: hibernate, tripvine; Traits: Beast of the Society, Berserker of the Society, Blade of the Society, Defender of the Society, Exalted of the Society, Greater Adept of the Society, Havoc of the Society, Honored Fist of the Society, Maestro of the Society, Stalwart of the Society, Tracker of the Society

You have to use the PFS Field Guide which is required reading for PFS players.

To be invited into the ranks of the Eagle Knights (with the rank of Lance Corporal) you need 20 Fame and it costs 1 Prestige Point. So you can't just be an Eagle Knight. The minimum rank for PCs is Lance Corporal.

You know, there comes a point when the rules become so much of a hassle that the game isn't fun anymore. I am not going to buy Another Book. I have the Faction Guide. We shouldn't make products obsolete as long as they are still in print. That is very annoying.

The faction guide isn't obsolete.

I meant Field Guide and said Faction Guide by mistake. Sorry bout that.

I understand why this might frustrate you on initial blush.

But as far as I am aware, the Faction Guide never allowed those items in PFS play. If I’m wrong here, I’m sure someone will correct me. I’m fairly new to PFS (March 2011), so if something was available out of the Faction guide prior to that and the Alternate Resources was changed, I would not have noticed.

The Field Guide also details the new 5 factions and gives tons of new options.

The Core Assumption for PFS play removed Seeker of Secrets (it’s content is still available per additional resources) and added the Field Guide.

So it isn’t so much a changing of the rules, but rather an addition of needed information for new options available to PFS players.

The Exchange 5/5 RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16

And, to be clear, you don't need to own the Field Guide. The campaign assumes you have access to it, and a few other resources.

And all that means is that, if you have the prestige and fame to spend on becoming an officially-recognized Eagle Knight, you don't have to carry the Field Guide around with you to every table, the way you would have to carry around the Andoran sourcebook if your character were to take levels in the Eagle Knight prestige class.

Come, sit at the table, draw up a character, and have a monkey-screaming good time.

And, of course, you can join the shady legion of ne'er-do-wells who claim to be Eagle Knights Errant. That doesn't cost any prestige.

Shadow Lodge 4/5 *** Venture-Captain, Michigan—Mt. Pleasant

And I for one think the PFS Field Guide was one of the best purchases since APG, there is a lot of really good stuff in it.

Shadow Lodge 4/5

Chris Mortika wrote:

... have a monkey-screaming good time.

I am so stealing this phrase!

Liberty's Edge 5/5 *** Venture-Captain, Missouri—Cape Girardeau

Chris Mortika wrote:

... have a monkey-screaming good time.

Someone has played mists of Mwangi one time too many!

Grand Lodge 2/5 RPG Superstar 2015 Top 32, RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32

Eric Clingenpeel wrote:
And I for one think the PFS Field Guide was one of the best purchases since APG, there is a lot of really good stuff in it.

Seconded. Ghost salt alone is fantastic.

The Exchange 5/5 RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16

Michael VonHasseln wrote:
Someone has played mists of Mwangi one time too many!

(Actually, not at all, yet.)

Shadow Lodge 4/5 *** Venture-Captain, Michigan—Mt. Pleasant

Jiggy wrote:
Eric Clingenpeel wrote:
And I for one think the PFS Field Guide was one of the best purchases since APG, there is a lot of really good stuff in it.
Seconded. Ghost salt alone is fantastic.

:D You know, session before last I mentioned Ghost Salt when we were discussing using the blanches on arrows, and while they almost all got the other blanches not one of them got Ghost Salt, then this last session they ran into two Allips... They ran from that fight, the first one I think they've ever ran from, had they gotten their ghost salt, it would have been fairly easy.

Grand Lodge 2/5 RPG Superstar 2015 Top 32, RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32

My fighter carries a pair of ghost salt'd greatswords. ;)

Shadow Lodge 4/5 *** Venture-Captain, Michigan—Mt. Pleasant

We decided that weapon blanches are great for arrows. They remain until the first hit, and arrows are destroyed after a hit anyway. Plus weapon blanch is way cheaper than buying actual arrows of the same type. I'm pretty sure my group will soon be carrying around a lot of ghost salted arrows from now on. :)

Liberty's Edge 4/5

Eric Clingenpeel wrote:
We decided that weapon blanches are great for arrows. They remain until the first hit, and arrows are destroyed after a hit anyway. Plus weapon blanch is way cheaper than buying actual arrows of the same type. I'm pretty sure my group will soon be carrying around a lot of ghost salted arrows from now on. :)

Especially since that is the only non-ETV way to get Ghost Touch or something similar on ammunition.

Shadow Lodge 4/5 *** Venture-Captain, Michigan—Mt. Pleasant

Callarek wrote:
Eric Clingenpeel wrote:
We decided that weapon blanches are great for arrows. They remain until the first hit, and arrows are destroyed after a hit anyway. Plus weapon blanch is way cheaper than buying actual arrows of the same type. I'm pretty sure my group will soon be carrying around a lot of ghost salted arrows from now on. :)
Especially since that is the only non-ETV way to get Ghost Touch or something similar on ammunition.

Umm... what is ETV?

Grand Lodge 1/5

Eric Clingenpeel wrote:
And I for one think the PFS Field Guide was one of the best purchases since APG, there is a lot of really good stuff in it.
Seconded. Ghost salt alone is fantastic.

Need to look at this...

Liberty's Edge 4/5

Eric Clingenpeel wrote:
Callarek wrote:
Eric Clingenpeel wrote:
We decided that weapon blanches are great for arrows. They remain until the first hit, and arrows are destroyed after a hit anyway. Plus weapon blanch is way cheaper than buying actual arrows of the same type. I'm pretty sure my group will soon be carrying around a lot of ghost salted arrows from now on. :)
Especially since that is the only non-ETV way to get Ghost Touch or something similar on ammunition.
Umm... what is ETV?

Expect Table Variation. The bane of unusual character builds, whether you are pushing the boundaries for extra character effectiveness, or for something that affects an potentially important aspect of your PC. Right now, for instance, the Combat Maneuvers blog & related FAQ entry have left it up in the air as to whether a Trip weapon can do Reposition & Drag maneuvers or not. (I was lucky recently, as the GM allowed it, and it changed an encounter from frustrating (enemy up 15' in a smoothed out tree) to handleable (my Lore Warden fighter used his 15' whip to drag her out of the tree).

The problem is that Weapon Blanching - Ghost Salt is the only version of Ghost Touch that explicitly mentions ammunition.

Ghost Touch is listed in the Melee weapon enhancements, and NOT in the Ranged weapon enhancements, so whether it is legal for ammunition is going to depend on GM interpretation.

Ghost Salt, on the other hand, is explicitly legal for ammunition.

Grand Lodge 4/5

The Eagle Knight Vanity for Andoran faction members states:

Quote:

Eagle Knight (Fame 20, 1 PP)

You are invited into the ranks of the
illustrious Eagle Knights with the
rank of lance corporal. You become
specialized in Diplomacy.

Does this mean you can treat Diplomacy as a class skill? Or does it have no mechanical benefit.

The Exchange 5/5

sveden wrote:

The Eagle Knight Vanity for Andoran faction members states:

Quote:

Eagle Knight (Fame 20, 1 PP)

You are invited into the ranks of the
illustrious Eagle Knights with the
rank of lance corporal. You become
specialized in Diplomacy.

Does this mean you can treat Diplomacy as a class skill? Or does it have no mechanical benefit.

PFS Field Guide pg13 wrote:

Skill Specialization

Many of the prestige awards and recognitions or resources
that faction members purchase allow a character to become
specialized in a skill. When a PC becomes specialized in a
skill, that skill immediately becomes a class skill for her. If
the PC gains that skill as a class skill from any other source
(either before or after you purchase the prestige resource),
she gains a +1 competence bonus on those skill checks.

Grand Lodge 4/5

Thank you, sir.

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