save dc 16 btw
1st sheet in 11th lecture:
Testing Characteristics
Continuity Problem:Small Changes (can) have big effects
Context Problem:Environment produces (almost) random effects
Testing can only prove the presence of defects never their absence (in contrast to model checking or theorem proving)
;>
thrasher save
eidolon save
thrasher save 1d20+8
eidolon save 1d20+2
defeated, argh no, no!
ah, glitterdust. Eidolons bane. (and summoners in this case)
Edit: Wow your posts refused to show up when i refreshed, ok so eidolon and summoner are blinded
druid is up
Summoner and eidolon are blind.
try to finish off summoner if possible
Druid full attacks the elemental
bite
damage extra die is shocking
damage
claw
damage
damage
Glitterdust has ended more encounters than I can count ;<
indeed, i do believe the elemental is down.
eidolon's turn
Eidolon delays - give me a moment after each action to decide if I break delay
Eidolon delays - give me a moment after each action to decide if I break delay
OK,
Paladin charges the eidolon
(finally eh?)
naylisk
damage
yasha
bite
damage
claw
damage
damage
rake
damage
damage
naylisk hits
27 damage
and 10 off stoneskin
yasha
bite hit 10 damage 10 off stoneskin
claw 2 hits 7 damage and 20 off stoneskin
rake
2 hits 15 damage and 20 off stoneskin
Edit paladin + mounts location is now oopp 5 6
eidolon is down ( and Stoneskin is down to 30 dmg)
invisible posts
invisible posts
that was invisible to me ;)
I think I got where the invisible posts come from ..
this course is good for something after all ;)
It is really annoying that you guys win becomes my roles are sucky!
archer is up
It is really annoying that you guys win becomes my roles are sucky!
i remember archer missing like 8 shots in a row last time around, but anyway
Edit (forgot where certain characters were)
Archer moves to kk7
Archer was really "lucky" with rolls so far, and these are nearly the first rolls paly got to make.
Elemental could have done a little more dmg, Eidolon had a 65% chance to be blinded. ( or 35% to keep it's vision)
so not much for the dice so far.
archer shoots at the eidolon who has cover from the paladin
damage
Eidolon is already down
i meant summoner not eidolon as the target of the shot
crit threat rolling to confirm
Eidolon at oopp34 with 53 hp
Pally dealt 59 dmg
dark joy please confirm my assumption about the paladin giving the summoner cover from kk 7, if he does have cover, then threat was not confirmed, if he didnt have cover then threat was confirmed.
Pally dealt 59 dmg
Eidolon at oopp34 with 53 hp
See the dice hate me today
Summoner is blind = flat footed and you get +2 to attack him
See the dice hate me todayPally dealt 59 dmg
Eidolon at oopp34 with 53 hp
that dmg was quite average (2 points above? ) and the attacks weren't out there too.
Summoner is blind = flat footed and you get +2 to attack him
Yeah without that +2 it would not have critted, no worries though.
Kitty is up
Summoner is blind = flat footed and you get +2 to attack him
right, so threat confirmed summoner takes 53 damage from archers hard hit
M-M-M-MASSIVE DAMAGE ;)
Yeah yeah, move on already
Summoner is blind = flat footed and you get +2 to attack himYeah without that +2 it would not have critted, no worries though.
Kitty is up
Kitty moves to nnoo1,2 (provokes an aoo from thrasher and my count is 14 squares to get there going around the pig sty with current speed at 70ft from haste)
and attacks with a bite
ah, right, thats optional now.
;>
18 damage to the summoner, his turn.
I run away
Gods, I liked playtesting against the pregens more. Damage output of these guys is crazy.
I am strongely considering that my guys really need more spells active before the encounter starts.
I run away
Gods, I liked playtesting against the pregens more. Damage output of these guys is crazy.
I am strongely considering that my guys really need more spells active before the encounter starts.
And what is worse, effectively there is even more of you!
6 against 2 is horrible odds.
Hey, we don't even have a Wizard ;)
Now we see what it's like with pwoerful characters against a powerful summoner. It's a CR8 encounter (CR9 considering equipment) and that was pretty fair.
And at least Felicitas wasn't really optimized or anything. I took slightly over 30 min making that character.
Hey, we don't even have a Wizard ;)
Now we see what it's like with pwoerful characters against a powerful summoner. It's a CR8 encounter (CR9 considering equipment) and that was pretty fair.
And at least Felicitas wasn't really optimized or anything. I took slightly over 30 min making that character.
It's CR8, gear is minimal. You took longer than 1 hour actually, we had to wait for you, remember ;>
And I am definitely not feeling the powerful summoner vibe - Oh No!
I run away
Gods, I liked playtesting against the pregens more. Damage output of these guys is crazy.
I am strongely considering that my guys really need more spells active before the encounter starts.
And what is worse, effectively there is even more of you!
6 against 2 is horrible odds.
Increasing the number of active spells would essentially increase the CR by 1 (very favorable circumstances) unless the party too got the chance to buff.
Not to mention one of the things that is being tested here is like vs like.
Summoner has a badass pet that is designed to pounce. Druid and Paladin both have pets and are designed to pounce. It is a fair comparison.
If you wanted pre-gens your eidolon should be far less optimized. (i would say completely removing the pounce ability as an option)
Hey, we don't even have a Wizard ;)
Now we see what it's like with pwoerful characters against a powerful summoner. It's a CR8 encounter (CR9 considering equipment) and that was pretty fair.
And at least Felicitas wasn't really optimized or anything. I took slightly over 30 min making that character.
It's CR8, gear is minimal. You took longer than 1 hour actually, we had to wait for you, remember ;>
And I am definitely not feeling the powerful summoner vibe - Oh No!
Right, I had an hour.
thats not terribly much too. (esp. considering that was the first druid since 3.0 I made (and only had one Player in 3.5 with one))haven't stopped time, but didn't work the whole hour ;)
Fact is, my eidolon is not optimized - he may look it, but the 30 minutes I spent creating him are not doing him any good.
You guys have the economy of movement thing going on, and with 6 vs 2 it is even more out of whack than the 4 vs 2 was.
But let's reset again and see what happens....
That there isn't a powerful summoner vibe and that the pouncing eidolon is comparable to the pouncing, buffed animal companion is worth something. A Good result for a playtest in my eyes.
give me 30 min (or a bit more)and I'm ready.
I would consider giving at least the paly a ranged sidearm. poor guy always running around searching for something to charge :)
Fact is, my eidolon is not optimized - he may look it, but the 30 minutes I spent creating him are not doing him any good.
You guys have the economy of movement thing going on, and with 6 vs 2 it is even more out of whack than the 4 vs 2 was.
But let's reset again and see what happens....
I dont have time for another round today, have some work i have to take care of. Perhaps tommorrow or if someone else wishes to run it.
I would be ready now.
(Everything finished and ready for the exam.)
Place your guys at the usual place and roll init.