...create a spell book? Exclusively for the purpose of creating scrolls, I mean.
A scroll is created by imbuing magical power into it when scribed, so that using it does not use one of your spells slots. A spell book does not have this power imbued into it when spells are added to it, so it is probably a no.
...create a spell book? Exclusively for the purpose of creating scrolls, I mean.
He could make a bunch of scrolls and bind them together into a book. He could not make a spellbook, however.
No, you have to prepare the scroll in order to scribe it.
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items#TOC-Creating-Scrolls
The creator must have prepared the spell to be scribed (or must know the spell, in the case of a sorcerer or bard) and must provide any material component or focus the spell requires.
Thanks!
Actually... a sorcerer could write spells into a spellbook using the processes described in the Magic Chapter: Arcane Magical Writings.
However, they could not use the formulae there to create scrolls. You have to actually cast the spell to make a new scroll.
So, what you'd have is a book with spell information (full of spells you likely would not "know") which you could not use in any way.
You could create scrolls of the spells your sorcerer knows, however.
Actually... a sorcerer could write spells into a spellbook using the processes described in the Magic Chapter: Arcane Magical Writings.
However, they could not use the formulae there to create scrolls. You have to actually cast the spell to make a new scroll.
So, what you'd have is a book with spell information (full of spells you likely would not "know") which you could not use in any way.
You could create scrolls of the spells your sorcerer knows, however.
Only classes with access to spellbooks (wizards, magi) can write spells in a spellbook. Even a sorcerer with scribe scroll cannot. The process is significantly different (thus different costs, material requirements, and results). In one, you are essentially casting the spell onto a piece of paper, to be finished later. In another you are writing down the entire process of casting the spell as a sort of "how-to" guide for yourself. Sorcerers cannot do this, even if they have the scribe scroll feat.
...create a spell book? Exclusively for the purpose of creating scrolls, I mean.He could make a bunch of scrolls and bind them together into a book. He could not make a spellbook, however.
This is actually an awesome idea and I think I might steal it. Not just for Sorcerers, but anyone who takes the Scribe Scroll feat. Even an Oracle can have a "Spellbook" this way. They just add spells to the sheets of paper as scrolls. When they use the page, the magic writing disappears and can be replaced later with a new spell. I think it's pretty cool.
This is actually an awesome idea and I think I might steal it. Not just for Sorcerers, but anyone who takes the Scribe Scroll feat. Even an Oracle can have a "Spellbook" this way. They just add spells to the sheets of paper as scrolls. When they use the page, the magic writing disappears and can be replaced later with a new spell. I think it's pretty cool.
Agreed. It is a cool roleplaying idea. I would not let one of my players have any kind of discount on the craft cost for doing it, but I don't think it breaks anything to let a player bind their scrolls together into a book.
Furthermore, I think it would be a pretty awesome way to hand out treasure scrolls. A book full of all the 0 and 1st level scrolls for a given class wouldn't be a bank breaker, but still useful in many situations.
When they use the page, the magic writing disappears and can be replaced later with a new spell. I think it's pretty cool.
The page of the spellbook itself would disappear, not just the writing.
When they use the page, the magic writing disappears and can be replaced later with a new spell. I think it's pretty cool.The page of the spellbook itself would disappear, not just the writing.
Nope:
The writing vanishes from the scroll when the spell is activated.
It says nothing about the scroll. If the paper itself disappeared, a scroll with multiple spells wouldn't work very well.
When they use the page, the magic writing disappears and can be replaced later with a new spell. I think it's pretty cool.The page of the spellbook itself would disappear, not just the writing.
Core Rulebook, top of p. 491
"The writing for an activated spell disappears from the scroll as the spell is cast."
bah. i see the magic chapter is not for me :)
So absolutely no way to copy a scroll without the ability to memorize (or know) the spell first?
So absolutely no way to copy a scroll without the ability to memorize (or know) the spell first?
Sadly, no. The best you can do is expend the scroll to scribe a new version of it, netting you the negative cost of the scroll and still only having one scroll.
Shame. I was hoping there might be some obscure (to me) special ability, feat, or something. Oh well, that's one character concept down the drain....