Daigle Spills Pathfinder News on Twitter! New AP Leaked!


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In case you haven't looked at Paizo Twiiter site recently, click on who they're following.

One of them is Adam Daigle.

Adam writes:

* The AP after Skull and Shackles is The Shattered Star. Starts in Magnimar and revisits Thassilon.

* The PCs hunt down parts of the sihedron, Runelords do stuff, hijinks ensue.

* Also, hardcover updated Rise of the Runelords is confirmed.

* Steve Greer is back! He's doing a module for Pathfinder!

Want something more concrete? Click here! Mayhem ensue! Note in a few hours the story might get buried, so scroll back if necessary/

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Jim Groves wrote:

In case you haven't looked at Paizo Twiiter site recently, click on who they're following.

One of them is Adam Daigle.

Adam writes:

* The AP after Skull and Shackles is The Shattered Star. Starts in Magnimar and revisits Thassilon.

* The PCs hunt down parts of the sihedron, Runelords do stuff, hijinks ensue.

* Also, hardcover updated Rise of the Runelords is confirmed.

* Steve Greer is back! He's doing a module for Pathfinder!

Want something more concrete? Click here! Mayhem ensue! Note in a few hours the story might get buried, so scroll back if necessary/

Hot Damn... Thanks Daigle!

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

Curiously, Daigle fell silent after spilling the beans. Unconfirmed rumors point to a puff of black smoke and several shuriken left at the scene...

Contributor, RPG Superstar 2010 Top 4

My apologies to Gary Teter. There was another thread, call "The Shattered Star", but I didn't notice it till afterwards.

Heh, because I didn't know that was the name of the new AP.

Anyway, my regrets for the duplicate thread.


Jim Groves wrote:

My apologies to Gary Teter. There was another thread, call "The Shattered Star", but I didn't notice it till afterwards.

Heh, because I didn't know that was the name of the new AP.

Anyway, my regrets for the duplicate thread.

Eh, we're mostly just poking fun at the alliteration over there. :)

The Exchange

Just got back to the hotel after the seminar where James, Wes, and crew dropped the knowledge. Jim Groves' summation was right on. Interesting details about armada-building in S&S as well as much cheering upon confirmation of the hardcover updated RotRL.

Dark Archive

Any news on WHEN they plan on publishing the hardback RotRL?


Jim Groves wrote:


* Also, hardcover updated Rise of the Runelords is confirmed.

Do....Want...Must...have...damn you ...for ...making me...talk...like...Shattner

Contributor, RPG Superstar 2010 Top 4

seekerofshadowlight wrote:
Jim Groves wrote:


* Also, hardcover updated Rise of the Runelords is confirmed.

Do....Want...Must...have...damn you ...for ...making me...talk...like...Shattner

Dammit Alaznist, I'm a doctor! Not a fleshwarping magician! I don't know how to make a crab claw come out of that orifice!


Oh , Oh I do! I do! wanna learn?"

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Adventure, Adventure Path, Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber
srd5090 wrote:
Any news on WHEN they plan on publishing the hardback RotRL?

They said next July.


Jim Groves wrote:


* Also, hardcover updated Rise of the Runelords is confirmed.

Splendid news. Any word on whether it's pretty much a cut/paste with just rules updated or if the content / organization / artwork is getting overhauled? Would love to see some updated art, even if a lot of the old stuff is mixed in with it.

Anyway I hope this product does well... would love to see all the APs have compilation releases eventually.

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Adventure, Adventure Path, Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber
orphicblue wrote:
Jim Groves wrote:


* Also, hardcover updated Rise of the Runelords is confirmed.

Splendid news. Any word on whether it's pretty much a cut/paste with just rules updated or if the content / organization / artwork is getting overhauled? Would love to see some updated art, even if a lot of the old stuff is mixed in with it.

Anyway I hope this product does well... would love to see all the APs have compilation releases eventually.

We might find out more tomorrow. However, we were told not to expect any other compilations-exact quote "Maybe in another 5 years" interrupted by "Maybe never."


orphicblue wrote:
Splendid news. Any word on whether it's pretty much a cut/paste with just rules updated or if the content / organization / artwork is getting overhauled? Would love to see some updated art, even if a lot of the old stuff is mixed in with it.

It is nearly certain that there will be some updated art assets, especially in Burnt Offerings - there were a few examples of art in that adventure that were much less well-received than others.

It's also very likely that there will be updates to the content that exceed what would be necessary to simply bring it in line with PFRPG. I'm sure they will take the opportunity to change some things the second time around. It's not that often you get the chance to revisit something that you thought was a done deal, after thousands of people have tried it out and passed on their feedback.

Quote:
Anyway I hope this product does well... would love to see all the APs have compilation releases eventually.

The best way to guarantee that would be to buy a copy, and then encourage anyone you know who might also be interested to buy a copy themselves. If a product like this turns out to be very successful, it might encourage similar projects.

It's also worth noting that this product is more than a vanity release - it's an in-demand, out-of-print AP that they are updating to a new rules set. There are only four non-PFRPG Pathfinder APs.

Silver Crusade

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I sure hope they will buff Xanesha, she's a walkover as written. ;)

Liberty's Edge

Reckless wrote:
srd5090 wrote:
Any news on WHEN they plan on publishing the hardback RotRL?
They said next July.

To go along with the second set of Pathfinder Minis, based from RotRL. I suspected an updated hardback when Paizo said minis based on the AP was coming.


Gorbacz wrote:
I sure hope they will buff Xanesha, she's a walkover as written. ;)

They should add another hundred feet to the tower. I'm sure the PCs can handle that.


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Scott Betts wrote:
orphicblue wrote:
Splendid news. Any word on whether it's pretty much a cut/paste with just rules updated or if the content / organization / artwork is getting overhauled? Would love to see some updated art, even if a lot of the old stuff is mixed in with it.

It is nearly certain that there will be some updated art assets, especially in Burnt Offerings - there were a few examples of art in that adventure that were much less well-received than others.

It's also very likely that there will be updates to the content that exceed what would be necessary to simply bring it in line with PFRPG. I'm sure they will take the opportunity to change some things the second time around. It's not that often you get the chance to revisit something that you thought was a done deal, after thousands of people have tried it out and passed on their feedback.

Quote:
Anyway I hope this product does well... would love to see all the APs have compilation releases eventually.

The best way to guarantee that would be to buy a copy, and then encourage anyone you know who might also be interested to buy a copy themselves. If a product like this turns out to be very successful, it might encourage similar projects.

It's also worth noting that this product is more than a vanity release - it's an in-demand, out-of-print AP that they are updating to a new rules set. There are only four non-PFRPG Pathfinder APs.

Inner Sea Magic has the new artwork for Nualia.

The Exchange

The way they pitched it today was that it was a special anniversary thing. It also happens to tie in nicely with the upcoming Shattered Star AP. From what Wes said, it is extremely unlikely that they plan to issue hardback compilations of any of the other APs - although as Scott Betts mentioned above - if the RotRL reissue is hugely successful they might be inclined to reconsider.

One other bit of news from the seminar: They floated the idea of strongly discouraging certain classes from playing certain APs in the Player's Guides. Case in point was paladins in Skull and Shackles. It seemed that the Paizo staff may have been divided on the issue, but the seminar room was not - everyone thought it logical that paladins wouldn't make good pirates.


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Scott Betts wrote:
It's also worth noting that this product is more than a vanity release - it's an in-demand, out-of-print AP that they are updating to a new rules set. There are only four non-PFRPG Pathfinder APs.

Only two of those have out-of-print volumes. Still, there's little reason to reprint the others. None have been as well received as Runelords, and there are plenty of excellent APs available now.

Sovereign Court

They should save CotCT for the '10 Years of Pathfinder' release. Even if RotRL sells like hot cakes.


I own Rise of the Rulelords and Curse of the Crimson Throne (picked up piecemeal when I started getting into Pathfinder around issue 13) and I'm still looking forward to buying Rise of the Runelords again in hardback IF the price is approachable. I mean just the convenience of having it be converted to Pathfinder RPG and rebalanced is significant.

I know they've said before that it would be an enormous book, so I'm guessing the hardback will just be the adventure itself, not the support articles.

Dark Archive

Despite being a charter subscriber and having GMed RotRL back and forth almost twice (about to start FotSG - again), I'm dead set on getting the hardcover. Yummy yummy yummy.


Awesome. Where can I preorder the hardcover?

Mental note to myself: need to re-subscribe after the pirate-thingy.


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Makes me want to run this AP all over again.

Sovereign Court RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8

If the Shackled City AP hardback is any indication (modified, of course, by 7 years of experience) It would likely include an expansion of areas, more background information, and various improvements/corrections/revisions. I would expect the banjos in Hook Mountain Massacare to be turned down a bit*. Also, the bestiaries would likely not be needed as much, since most of the critters have since appeared in Beastiary 1-3. Classes might change as well. (Stats for non-bestiary stuff, like the Scarecrow, would likely remain.)

Still, I am chomping at the bit for this.**

*

Spoiler:
I'm assuming this, sicne the HMM was one of the least well received volumes in the book. YMMV of course. Also with the bitter taste of RC, someone rewriting Nick's work might be seen as a good PR move, that's just more speculation on my part. I would like a Tsuko's notebook handout, using some of Liz's Nuala work, but then we're creeping back to R ratings. They were damn effective in my game though

**

Spoiler:
obligatory *Laugh at Wizards for not letting Paizo release AoW and ST AP Hardbacks* comment

***

Spoiler:
EXPLOSIVE RUNES

Dark Archive

I think it would be best if RotRL was broken down into 2hardcovers. Each containing three converted and expanded APS while but having room for growth.

Liberty's Edge

Matthew Morris wrote:
Stuff

What is this

Spoiler:
I would like a Tsuko's notebook handout, using some of Liz's Nuala work, but then we're creeping back to R ratings. They were damn effective in my game though
referring to?
Dark Archive

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber
Marc Radle wrote:
Matthew Morris wrote:
Stuff

What is this ** spoiler omitted ** referring to?

Lilith aka Liz has some art of Nuala up on her page here that is likely what they are talking about.

Sovereign Court RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8

Marc Radle wrote:
Matthew Morris wrote:
Stuff

What is this ** spoiler omitted ** referring to?

Spoiler:
It should be Tsuto, to start, but here is/was the original thread.

This Might link to a PDF for Tsuto's letter. (if it's still good).


Gorbacz wrote:
I sure hope they will buff Xanesha, she's a walkover as written. ;)

LOLOLOLLOL!

ROTRL SPOILER....

Spoiler:
we fought her AND her damn sister at the same time.....it was down to one die roll; either I hit really good right now,.....or I'm totally f$&#ing dead. A 2 roll and I'm doomed, a 14.....I exist one more round or something like that.


Since we're talking about the hardcover RotRL, one question springs to mind:

Will it include the articles that often complete the AP in itself thematically? I believe the fiction and bestiary (when irrelevant to the AP itself) might get cut out, but what about the other ones? The Sandpoint article is pretty much needed to run the campaign, as is Magnimar and such, but other seem to be more in the "grey zone", like the one on dragons, or stone giants.


Starfinder Charter Superscriber
Reckless wrote:
srd5090 wrote:
Any news on WHEN they plan on publishing the hardback RotRL?
They said next July.

Sweet! Maybe by then we'll have finished our 1st run-through. :P Then I could run it for another group of players.


Scott Betts wrote:
Gorbacz wrote:
I sure hope they will buff Xanesha, she's a walkover as written. ;)
They should add another hundred feet to the tower. I'm sure the PCs can handle that.

Stop. You're scaring me.

I shudder to think about how many near-TPKs and actual TPKs she inflicted upon me.

Sovereign Court

RotRL had amazing community support. Lots of outstanding stuff from really excited GMs who could all focus upon the same AP.

I took so many ideas from suggestions from people like Mary Yamamoto, on top of handouts, maps and suchlike.

I would love to see some of the amazing fan work included.

Someone even made a Thassilonian Runes font, They would be an awesome bonus download if paizo hosted them.


For the record, I absolutely loved Hook Mountain Massacre.

It's a shame what ended up happening with Nicholas Logue, but for a couple of years there he was writing one gorgeously creepy adventure after another. There's never been anything quite like him since.

Doug M.

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber
Douglas Muir 406 wrote:


For the record, I absolutely loved Hook Mountain Massacre.

It's a shame what ended up happening with Nicholas Logue, but for a couple of years there he was writing one gorgeously creepy adventure after another. There's never been anything quite like him since.

Doug M.

I hope the collected hardcover includes Nick's Director's Cut version of HMM... you know the one in which one half-ogre [CENSORED] his [CENSORED] using a [CENSORED].


Gorbacz wrote:
Douglas Muir 406 wrote:


For the record, I absolutely loved Hook Mountain Massacre.

It's a shame what ended up happening with Nicholas Logue, but for a couple of years there he was writing one gorgeously creepy adventure after another. There's never been anything quite like him since.

Doug M.

I hope the collected hardcover includes Nick's Director's Cut version of HMM... you know the one in which one half-ogre [CENSORED] his [CENSORED] using a [CENSORED].

eh, I've seen it and it's not worth the hype...

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