Sorcerer and crafting alchemy.


Pathfinder First Edition General Discussion


I am new to DMing, and I have a character who wants to play a sorcerer who can craft potions and a plethora of other enhancements.

I've seen a alchemist played before and it seems fairly much like, combine the components and you have a potion.

However a draconic sorcerer who can potion, what do I need to be aware of with her playing this, and where can I read more about alchemy?


Read the "Brew Potion" feat.

Also, duplicate thread.


Also tell your player don't. They nerfed Brew Potion so hard that it doesn't make sense for spontaneous caster to take anymore.

You have to have the spells known or on hand to brew a potion now. So with the limited spells known for a sorcerer, his mileage is going to be crap with the Brew Potion feat.


Gignere wrote:

Also tell your player don't. They nerfed Brew Potion so hard that it doesn't make sense for spontaneous caster to take anymore.

You have to have the spells known or on hand to brew a potion now. So with the limited spells known for a sorcerer, his mileage is going to be crap with the Brew Potion feat.

Well, it wasn't really nerfed. It was simply clarified. Most understood this was how the feat was always supposed to function. Some simply took advantage of the wording to gain an advantage.


Gignere wrote:

Also tell your player don't. They nerfed Brew Potion so hard that it doesn't make sense for spontaneous caster to take anymore.

You have to have the spells known or on hand to brew a potion now. So with the limited spells known for a sorcerer, his mileage is going to be crap with the Brew Potion feat.

Unless I'm mistaken, this rule change isn't in any of the books. It can be (and in my opinion should be) easily ignored.


LilithsThrall wrote:
Unless I'm mistaken, this rule change isn't in any of the books. It can be (and in my opinion should be) easily ignored.

From the SRD, under creating potions:

The creator must have prepared the spell to be placed in the potion (or must know the spell, in the case of a sorcerer or bard) and must provide any material component or focus the spell requires.

Material components are consumed when he begins working, but a focus is not. (a focus used in brewing a potion can be reused.) The act of brewing triggers the prepared spell, making it unavailable for casting until the character has rested and regained spells. (That is, that spell slot is expended from the caster's currently prepared spells, just as if it had been cast.) Brewing a potion requires 1 day.


dr_koopon wrote:
LilithsThrall wrote:
Unless I'm mistaken, this rule change isn't in any of the books. It can be (and in my opinion should be) easily ignored.

From the SRD, under creating potions:

The creator must have prepared the spell to be placed in the potion (or must know the spell, in the case of a sorcerer or bard) and must provide any material component or focus the spell requires.

Material components are consumed when he begins working, but a focus is not. (a focus used in brewing a potion can be reused.) The act of brewing triggers the prepared spell, making it unavailable for casting until the character has rested and regained spells. (That is, that spell slot is expended from the caster's currently prepared spells, just as if it had been cast.) Brewing a potion requires 1 day.

Originally, RAW was

"RAW' wrote:


Note that all items have prerequisites in their descriptions. These prerequisites must be met for the item to be created. Most of the time, they take the form of spells that must be known by the item's creator (although access through another magic item or spellcaster is allowed). The DC to create a magic item increases by 5 for each prerequisite the caster does not meet. The only exception to this is the requisite item creation feat, which is mandatory. In addition, you cannot create potions, scrolls, staves, wands, or any other spell-trigger or spell-completion magic item without meeting its prerequisites.

My error in my last post was forgetting that last sentence. It's a bad rule (as Witches, in myth, have long been able to use their cauldron to perform magic they couldn't normally do, Alchemists should have a much broader list of potions they can brew, and this rule hurts spontaneous casters unfairly), but it's a rule which has been arround from the beginning.

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